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Old 10-22-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default A Small Flush in the Big Blind

Villain had just sat down. No reads. Hate it? Like it?



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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

Fold the flop.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

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Fold the flop.

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Because?
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

This is far too much of a hand to even dream of tossing away on the flop. Over 85% of the time you have either the best hand or the best draw. I also quite like that turn and river combo. If he bets you call, if he checks you bet. One question that comes up when you bet is what to do on a river check raise, and the answer is fold.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:20 AM
sean c sean c is offline
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

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Fold the flop.

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This is a joke right?
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:10 PM
GMan42 GMan42 is offline
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

Only part I don't like is the river. I think SB is being cautious with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] often enough that the bet is -EV (especially since the times he was pulling a Clarkmeister on the turn, he'll just muck to your river bet anyway). Check behind.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:12 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

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Fold the flop.

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Horrible.

Hero played this hand pretty well.

Flop raise is pretty good, I think. I think waiting to raise a safe turn is also an option. But a player betting a draw might not bet the turn all the time, and raising now is plenty good to protect your hand against anything that might consider folding anyway.

Calling the turn I think is the right play. I can't see any reason to raise and fold to a three-bet or something because you can get to a showdown for the same price. I think folding is probably too weak as sometimes this'll be a bluff. With a read folding the turn can be the clear play, though.

I don't think there's much reason to bet the river, though. Villain may well have a hand like 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something. There aren't a whole lot of non-flush hands good enough to call here.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

What W. Deranged said.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:13 PM
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You guys are awesome. He had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

One thing I don't understand, though, is his check on the river. It doesn't make much sense to me.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: A Small Flush in the Big Blind

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You guys are awesome. He had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

One thing I don't understand, though, is his check on the river. It doesn't make much sense to me.

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I see your difficulty. I think I can help.

He sucks.
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