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Old 10-21-2005, 01:36 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Check and call if given odds, which is not all that unlikely from a fish. If we push the flop we are coin flipping against Kx, I believe there is much more EV in playing passively with a draw against these sorts of players unless the pot is small and we need to build it.

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i think if you check the flop there is a good chance CO/Button bets

villain is only villain in this hand because hero led out and he was the only one to call

i also dont mind seeing this flop checked through at all

although by the turn i give it up unless im getting good odds
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:36 PM
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why is your continuation bet 1/2 pot

in fact its not even 1/2 pot its LESS than 1/2 pot

why are you betting SO SMALL against a SHORT STACKED VILLAIN with a draw

either check-raise all-in on the flop (which is ok against guys who can FOLD usually NOT short stacks) or lead 3/4 ish

CHECK TURN why are you betting so small yet again

WHY did you push river, check it, you bet 26 in the hopes that he'd fold something? against a short stacked villain? NEVER is he folding any pair there!!

actually, i cant really even comment on the river, because you shouldnt have gotten yourself in that position to begin with

pre-flop can go either way, but if youre going to raise, raise MORE. there's 13 in the pot already before you even raise, and you raised to 12. sick. seriously, what's with the pussy mini bets/raises.

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One of my not so great weak tight moments, what do u think is better a lead into the field or a CR? Given my PF raise
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:36 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Check the flop and raise big if someone bets it.

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That's what I was thinking too. C/r the flop big (ai?). Preflop, limp or fold. OOP play like this=burning money.

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You don't raise here to isolate?

Some one leads flop for 30, do you push here with another 220, or raise to 120ish leaving only 100 behind. Stack sizes make this c/r awkard

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Oy. Read it as Hero having $83.10 stack. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:37 PM
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Check the flop and raise big if someone bets it.

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That's what I was thinking too. C/r the flop big (ai?). Preflop, limp or fold. OOP play like this=burning money.

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You don't raise here to isolate?

Some one leads flop for 30, do you push here with another 220, or raise to 120ish leaving only 100 behind. Stack sizes make this c/r awkard

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Oy. Read it as Hero having $83.10 stack. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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My stack was aournd 250 or so, with CO at 220 and Button at 170
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:53 PM
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I don't think berating the guy is the right attitude to take in this situation.

You had a read on the guy:
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Villan is a pretty weak player, showdown a lot of strange hands, with bottom pair, K high, your average donk


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Why are you trying to bluff someone who'll call down with bottom pair? There's no need to bet aggressively out of position with just a draw to someone who'll call with any piece of it. Check/call and bet large with your made hands.... you know he'll pay you off.

The only reason to bet into a calling station is for value.
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Old 10-21-2005, 02:05 PM
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Raise PF to $16. Then either lead the flop for $50 or check/raise all in like a man.
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Old 10-21-2005, 02:05 PM
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The only reason to bet into a calling station is for value.

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