Curtains Hand - A6o on bubble

[Shillx]

You will have 6 big blinds if you fold here. This isn't exactly desperation mode. If he shoves everytime and you call 20% of the time, it is nice spot for him to be in. He picks up T225 80% of the time and loses say T330 (as a 2:1 dog) when you call. The EV of pushing it in is ~ +T110. Slightly less since the SB will sometimes have a hand. This is the perfect time for him to move in every hand.

[curtains]

Is it possible to give the handle of the bully to refresh my memory...

[fluorescenthippo]

frankieg119

[pineapple888]

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Villian was being a typical semi bully on the bubble. I don't like a push here because even if the villian is raising a huge range, a call by him is usually still -EV. Unless there is a big chance he will fold to my push I fold here.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) converter

UTG (t1625)
Button (t4425)
SB (t2905)
Curtainz (t1045)

Preflop: Curtainz is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Curtainz is all-in [t1045], Button calls t745.

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Don't like it when I can fold and still have 6BB. This hand is dominated way too often.

I think I have virtually zero fold equity on the push.

[ilya]

At first glance I don't like this play at all. It seems almost certainly -$EV as it's real easy for Villain to call &amp; even if Villain raises &amp; calls with literally any 2, the play is only slightly profitable.

But if every single hand is getting raised ahead of Hero's rapidly-shrinking stack, I can see making this play as a lesser-of-two-evils compromise.

[Custer]

"But if every single hand is getting raised ahead of Hero's rapidly-shrinking stack, I can see making this play as a lesser-of-two-evils compromise."

I disagree with this. You can always raise UTG. Meanwhile, if lots of hands are getting raised, someone else might call. And if someone raises and someone calls and neither of those someones are you, you gain tournament EV.

So, unless you are sure that villain is raising any 2, or that he will fold too often to your reraise, I'd rather foldt his hand and just raise when its folded to you.

moses

[ilya]

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"But if every single hand is getting raised ahead of Hero's rapidly-shrinking stack, I can see making this play as a lesser-of-two-evils compromise."

I disagree with this. You can always raise UTG. Meanwhile, if lots of hands are getting raised, someone else might call. And if someone raises and someone calls and neither of those someones are you, you gain tournament EV.

So, unless you are sure that villain is raising any 2, or that he will fold too often to your reraise, I'd rather foldt his hand and just raise when its folded to you.

moses

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But what about the fact that when you're UTG, it's the huge stack who's in the BB?

Also, it's true that someone else may call one of the next few raises, but doesn't it become less &amp; less likely as your stack shrinks &amp; the medium stacks become more &amp; more committed to waiting you out? also, it's not enough for someone to just call a preflop raise...someone actually has to bust, and it seems that with you this short your opponents are gonna be careful postflop as well as preflop.

i'm definitely playing the devil's advocate as i've almost never made this push, but these points came to mind so i thought i'd throw them out there.

[curtains]

The devil is dead man, I already said I don't like my play.

[ilya]

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The devil is dead man, I already said I don't like my play.

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well sure, but that doesn't mean I don't like it either.

although i don't think i do.

p.s. anyway, i was harassing Custer more than anyone else.