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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
Looks like he's playing K-10/A from the way he donkey-raised PF and is calling anything the whole way.
I don't really fear him here personally |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
I personnally do not understand the check/call play at all. It just seems like an opportunity for a weak hand to take a free showdown whereas a strong hand would bet anyway, or maybe do you expect him to bet little like 10$ in case he has a strong hand ?
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
I still don't know what I should have done. I don't like the check/call at all, can comeone explain in which way it could be better than betting ?
Thank you ! |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
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[ QUOTE ] you bet 15 and fold to a raise [/ QUOTE ] not enough left in villain's stack for this option. mistake was potting the turn. I think river is check fold without any reads. if you are betting the river, call the raise. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, my mistake, I thought villain had $50 here. River I would probably push or check, and what I do if villain bets really depends on how the table has been going. |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
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[ QUOTE ] I think river is check fold without any reads. [/ QUOTE ] What are you talking about??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] this is with the assumption that we did not pot the turn and we went to the river with much more left over. I'm mixed on the turn. yeah, maybe potting the turn, pushing river is better line. |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
Reraise more pre-flop. He min-raised so it is likely he will come along. Go to $2.50. Pot the flop($5). Then you can put him all-in on the turn.
As played, you are not backing down, so push or c/c the river. I prefer a push villain has a short stack and should put it all in if he hit his flush. Hero showed that he wasn't going anywhere. |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
I like it. On the river, check-calling is the best option I think. It looks like he has a pair of Kings.
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
I really don't like check-calling at all, because if he has the king he is going to call anyway and checking gives him the option check behind with a marginal holding and he is going to bet a strong hand anyway. If you bet you will lose the money if he has a strong hand, but you will win it if he has the K. For me it's either check-fold (assuming he would not bet Kx) or half bet fold to a raise (most players don't raise on the river with top pair marginal kicker), or push.
For those of you who would have checked-called it would be nice if you could explain why you prefer that play to pushing. Thank you ! |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
If you bet, he most likely folds worse hands and you make nothing. If you check, you allow the weaker hands to bluff (or bet what they think is the best hand) and you stand to make more.
If he has a pair of Kings, he's not checking behind, because odds are, he sucks. EDIT: Also, if you ARE behind on the river, check-calling saves you money. |
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Re: AA out of position (NL 0.25BB on Absolute)
I must be missing some advanced concept in this hand. 80% of the time here villian has Kx, and the way it's gone so far it doesn't look like he paired his x card. A small % of time he has an even worse hand than Kx. And maybe 10% of the time he's slowplaying something that beats us. This is a clear river bet, the only question is how much, and I vote $12.
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