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Old 10-14-2004, 12:35 AM
Quercus Quercus is offline
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Default Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

While looking for leaks, I noticed that my top two money losing hands are KJs and 22 (out of 30000 or so hands) followed by a huge raft of hands that only get played out of the BB or when posting.

I think my problem with 22 is mostly a problem preflop, whereas KJs is mostly postflop. Curious to see what hands are problems for others...
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

me and everyone else it seems has trouble with AQ. i dont know why, but i have been doing much better with it not raising preflop. i tend to out kicker people more like that.
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

A6s and 97s for me. One not in the blinds and the other is in the blinds (mainly). A6s I've lost a few HUGE pots in, which probably drags it down.

Rob
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

My two worst are A4s and 22. I play 22 probably too loosely in early position, and end up paying too much to see the flop when the hand is raised in a later position. A4s is just raising the pots with a flush draw and ultimately missing my flush.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

AKo, and ATs are my biggest leaks, though my sample size is on the small size.. This is interesting because AKs and ATo are two of my biggest winners..... weird.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

thats funny, my top losing hand is KJs....
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

This is probably pretty pointless unless you have loads and loads of hands. Mine are A6s and KJs.

A6s is my only suited ace that isn't in the green. I'm certain that this is because it simply hasn't made as many flushes as my other suited aces, or it's flushes have been cracked by full houses or whatever else. I know I'm not playing it significantly differently than A5s or A7s.

KJs - I don't know and I really don't care. AKs is a winner for me, as is KTs and K9s. KQs and KJs strangely aren't. Perhaps I'm overplaying them, but more than likely it's just a sample size issue (I have 34,000 hands at the moment).
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

Could be, but I'm curious to see other responses. So far, KJ and 22 have popped up from multiple people. Could be sample size, could also be a trend...
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

[ QUOTE ]
Could be, but I'm curious to see other responses. So far, KJ and 22 have popped up from multiple people. Could be sample size, could also be a trend...

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I filtered for just my 1/2 and 2/4 hands (25.5k hands) since I figure I'm a different player than I was at .5/1.00 and .25/.5.

KJs I'm winning to the tune of 1.29 BB per hand and KJo to the tune of .43 BB per hand.

22's a net loser (although I had a huge run in this sample where I was pretty damn set dead...what the heck is a set anyway I began to wonder)... but only to the tune of 12 bucks or .09 BB per hand.

My biggest loser is 53 offsuit (almost entirely due to money lost in the blinds) with one two pair flop that lost to a flush, one straight that lost to a flush, and one OESD that didn't get there accounting for the rest of the difference.

Following that is 87o, T9o, 95o etc...BB hands mostly.

Interestingly however, if I do it by BB per hand I get K8s. Mostly that looks to be BB or completing in the small blind and flopping top pair that doesn't hold up or a flush draw that doesn't get there (not once did it make a flush...grrrrr.) minus .23 BB per hand as compared to the minus .17 for the 53o.

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Old 10-14-2004, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Top two worst hands in your PT DB - blinds or played?

for me, 22 was a bigger winner at .50/1.00 and 1/2 than 33-66. I think KJs and KJo were big winners (relative to expectations). I'd have to double-check.

lowest at .50/1.00:
T8s - 23 times - 4.35% win - (.87) BB/hand
Q8s - 26 times - 0% win - (.68) BB/hand
K8s - 40 times - 0% win - (.64) BB/hand
33 - 48 times - 6.25% win - (.59) BB/hand
87s - 25 times - 4.00% win - (.58) BB/hand

lowest at 1/2:
JTs - 36 times - 13% win - (.78) BB/hand
66 - 44 times - 13% win - (.49) BB/hand
97s - 24 times - 4% win - (.42) BB/hand
33 - 35 times - 2% win - (.39) BB/hand
77, A5s, 82s, A4s, Q2s follow
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