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Old 11-06-2005, 01:46 AM
elcheapo elcheapo is offline
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Default 11r call an allin with AQ high on a monotone flop

I (17K)raise to 1800 utg and BB (6500) thinks and calls. flop comes 857 of clubs. I have no clubs and he pushes 5k or so into a 4300 chip pot. Against any pair I'm drawing very thin but against a lone club I'm ahead barely. Is this a pair scared of the draw,semibluff or pure bluff.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: 11r call an allin with AQ high on a monotone flop

Board: 8c 5c 7c
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 37.2879 % 34.37% 02.91% { AsQh }
Hand 2: 62.7121 % 59.80% 02.91% { random }
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: 11r call an allin with AQ high on a monotone flop

then I'm getting pot odds against a random hand
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: 11r call an allin with AQ high on a monotone flop

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I (17K)raise to 1800 utg and BB (6500) thinks and calls. flop comes 857 of clubs. I have no clubs and he pushes 5k or so into a 4300 chip pot. Against any pair I'm drawing very thin but against a lone club I'm ahead barely. Is this a pair scared of the draw,semibluff or pure bluff.

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I'd estimate the chances of it being a pure bluff as about 0-1%.

He has something, flush draw or pair/set. either way, I'd never call with AQ without clubs here. A random unpaired hand is not going to push here. Once you take that out of the range, I doubt it is a call.
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:23 AM
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then I'm getting pot odds against a random hand

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I'm sure you see what this illustrates.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:03 PM
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then I'm getting pot odds against a random hand

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Just because you don't know what it is does not mean the hand is random. Create a range and run some tests. I think you'll see that you aren't getting anywhere close to odds to call - and even if you were what hands in his range are you beating either now or at a showdown?
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