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Old 07-26-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default value bet the river?

i haven't played a hand in about to orbits, so i am guessing i appear tight. UTG+1 is an atm. seriously.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero ???
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Default Re: value bet the river?

seems ez to me
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default hand #2

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (8.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero ???
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: value bet the river?

You gotta bet that. UTG+1 has shown absolutely no aggression; you are almost definetly ahead.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: value bet the river?

You're holding the 3rd nut flush against a player you describe as an atm. This is an incredibly easy value bet, even with the paired board. If I define "atm" the same as you do, he'll call with any pair, any lower diamond, or maybe just any 2 to see what you were betting with all that time.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: value bet the river?

definitely bet that.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: value bet the river?

Bet. You're only beat by a Q or J of [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He'll call you with any other [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] plus an A or K or who knows what else.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:52 PM
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River: (8.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero ???

[/ QUOTE ]

Absent a read, Hero checks behind &amp; hopes that MP3 badly overplayed TT. I don't think he folds QQ or another JJ (or calls with TT) often enough to make this bet for value.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:53 PM
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hand 2: w/o any read, i suspect any K, which you would have to bluff out, or AK. I suppose TT or lower pair is possible. Bet and you can fold to a raise.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:54 PM
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What's he gonna call your river bet with that you beat? I think you're are beat here; bet the river if you think he's got a King and will fold for one additional bet. If not, check that thru.
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