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Old 06-03-2005, 05:16 PM
JDErickson JDErickson is offline
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Default Tricky TAG

PP 3/6 Table. Opponent was Taggish to Eaglish

I open raise UTG with AKo, folded to TAG in BB who calls.

Flop A97 rainbow

BB Checks, 1 bet, BB CR's, Hero ???

After this decision the turn is also interesting. I will post that after I see what people think on the flop action
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

I calling the flop c/r and raising his turn bet.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:21 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

I sometimes will take the line of call the flop raise, call the turn bet and raise the river, against players that are capable of folding.

(of course, I bet if checked to on any street)

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Old 06-03-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

A smart player wouldn't call a PFR with A9, so i think he's either got a set or is bluffing on the chane you missed the flop. Your hand is strong enough to three-bet him here. If he's as tricky as you say, he might just be trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:34 PM
Jonny Melon Jonny Melon is offline
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

Default: Call flop, call turn, raise river. Bet if checked to.

You'll make more if TAG is bluffing, the same as raising the turn if TAG has a weaker ace, and lose the same as raising the turn if you are behind. Of course, you can mix up your line after that.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:37 PM
sammy_g sammy_g is offline
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

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A smart player wouldn't call a PFR with A9, so i think he's either got a set or is bluffing on the chane you missed the flop.

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A9s is a possibility. Also AQ, AJ, and AT. I'm not giving villan credit for a set until he shows some real strength.

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Your hand is strong enough to three-bet him here. If he's as tricky as you say, he might just be trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

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Yes, but your hand is also strong enough to call here and wait until the more expensive streets to raise. If he's bluffing or betting a worse ace, it's best to let him keep betting.

Seeing as there are no real draws on this board, I might call the flop and the turn, planning to raise on the river. There is a chance he checks one of those streets, though, and you lose a bet.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:38 PM
Sarge85 Sarge85 is offline
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

3 Bets.

This could easily be ATs or something of that nature.

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Old 06-03-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default: Call flop, call turn, raise river. Bet if checked to.

You'll make more if TAG is bluffing, the same as raising the turn if TAG has a weaker ace, and lose the same as raising the turn if you are behind. Of course, you can mix up your line after that.

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I was gonna say wait until the turn to raise but waiting until the river is much better. I just finished re-reading the section of HPFAP where S&M advocate just that with hands like TPTK.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:44 PM
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I like waiting until the river to pop him. If he has a weaker ace, I think he is likely to bet it all the way, and he will probably be able to fold something like A8s if you play back at him.

If he has a pocket pair, then giving him a chance to fold would be bad.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Tricky TAG

what is your table image?

if i were him, and i had you pegged as a TAG, i wouldn't play A9 or a set this way. i'd raise you on an expensive street as i'm probably crushing everything in your hand range except AA.

i 3-bet this and reevaluate if capped.
if villain calls, the turn blanks and the bastage CR's me again, i fold.
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