100nl 6max winrate by position, 50k hands

[meow_meow]

Just thought I'd throw this out there for comparison/critisism. No real idea how I should be doing in the binds. Also, I'm actually in the red for 3 off the button, but it's only a 4500 hand sample, so not too worried:

Position: PTBB/hand:
button 0.27
1 0.19
2 0.10
3 -0.01
bb -0.09
sb -0.02

When I filter for 5 and 6 handed only, outside the blinds is about the same, bb dips to -0.14 and sb to -0.03.

Thoughts?

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Position: PTBB/hand:
button 0.27
1 0.19
2 0.10
3 -0.01
bb -0.09
sb -0.02


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I only have about 5.5K hands, but here are mine.
Position: PTBB/hand:
button 0.26
1 0.16
2 0.31 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
3 -0.18 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
bb 0.11
sb 0.13

The blind numbers are what is displayed in PT which I think is based on the 'diff w/o blind' column. I'm a net loser in the BB if you include the blinds.

Here they are with only 5 or 6 people playing (4K hands).

Position: PTBB/hand:
button 0.29
1 0.06
2 0.31 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
3 -0.18 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
bb -0.05
sb 0.19

I'm really not sure how to interpret this stuff. I definitely think I actually DO need to tighten up UTG, though, so that is a useful take-away from this analysis.

[jhall23]

Hmm, this is weird. I tried checking mine in PT and I have positions 4 and 5 off the button as well. Is my PT messed up or something.

Whatever the heck that 4 and 5 are they are my best winners. I've got .82 in the #5 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Other than that I only have about 5,000 hands at 100 so far so I can't really give you much. I am doing much worse in the blinds then you two are, however I am doing pretty good in the #3 at .10.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think this just shows that 5K hands is way too few to look at stats by position, really. Let's do this again when we have more hands. Or others with more hands can add their thoughts.

[jhall23]

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I think this just shows that 5K hands is way too few to look at stats by position, really. Let's do this again when we have more hands. Or others with more hands can add their thoughts.

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Yes, definetly not enough hands.

I am confused on how the heck I am seeing positions 4 and 5 though. Do you see that? I've actually checked the HH's and double checked some of them. It seems those that are labeled 5 are UTG and should actually be labeled 3 and those that are labeled 4 are UTG+1 and should be labeled 2. The ones I checked were all party/empire so it's not like it was one of the weirder sites like absolute.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I don't see it. I think sometimes the hand history messes up where the button is. Make sure it has the right placement of the button.

[wtfsvi]

Mine at NL $100 and $200 after 13K hands:

Button .36
1 .07
2 .15
3 .19
4 .19
5 (-.19)
BB (-.10)
SB (-.09)

I don't know what position 4 and 5 is supposed to mean, but there aren't many hands in them anyway.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Weird that position 1 is worse than 2/3. I think it is probably still too few hands, since that really makes no sense. You probably just lost a few big pots from the 1 position unluckily or something.

[wtfsvi]

Yeah, you would except position 1 and 3 to switch here, and that illustrates there are probably not enough hands.

I think a leak of mine might be raising too much in the cutoff though. (near 20%)

[meow_meow]

If you see extra positions off the button, it's because you need a pt update. Party changed the seat numbering for 6 handed a while back.

FYI.

Unfortunately, I don't think updating PT will fix hands already loaded.