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nrinker · #1 02-15-2005, 03:55 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

davelin · #2 02-15-2005, 04:00 PM

Don't you have odds for your 2nd nut flush, inside str8 draw?

djr · #3 02-15-2005, 04:03 PM

you're getting 6.25:1 with 9 flush outs and 3 straight outs. Even if you count the straight outs as 1 out and figure MP1 for a non-nut flush (thus reducing your total outs to 9) you're still getting odds to call for the 2nd nut flush. I would check/call the turn and ditto the river (if you hit one of your outs) or check/raise the river if the Ad hits. Obviously fold there if nothing good rivers.

djshawk · #4 02-15-2005, 04:07 PM

There is no way I'd fold here. Sure you are probably loosing right now, but you have got a massive draw. Any diamond gives you a very strong hand, a jack gives you a great hand, and spiking an Ace will still probably take down the pot. At 6-1 you only need about 6 outs, and collectively I think you have way more than that, and its nice to know if you miss your draw you dont have to call a river bet.

Entity · #5 02-15-2005, 04:09 PM

No. Bad fold.

djshawk · #6 02-15-2005, 04:09 PM

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check/raise the river if the Ad hits.

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would you bet this board if it was checked to you with a 4-flush on it? He might not even have a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I'd just get that bet in.

btspider · #7 02-15-2005, 04:25 PM

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Don't you have odds for your 2nd nut flush, inside str8 draw?

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the ? should be !!

call that turn.

Reef · #8 02-15-2005, 04:58 PM

horrible turn play

dr. klopek · #9 02-15-2005, 06:12 PM

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horrible turn play

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Not necessarily. Hero could have a solid read that the 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] gives villain quads.