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Old 10-08-2004, 01:18 PM
Lurshy Lurshy is offline
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Default Another JJ Hand - A good Push?

Since JJ seems to be a hot topic of late, I though I would post this hand from last nights $15 Paradise MTT.

There were (I think) about 700 players, Top 60 get paid. We are in the meaningless money (I think about ~45 left), I have about an average stack. The blind levels are moving up quickly (every 12 minutes), and even an average stack is under pressure. Play has loosened up a bit due to that fact, tempting blinds, and the recent passing of the bubble. Big stack at the table is one of the tourney leaders. Blinds are T1000/2000 T100 ante. With $4000 already in the pot at the deal, stealing is occuring when possible. I am CO-1.

I had been at this table for only a few rounds, but I had been with some of the players for much of the tournament (on earlier tables). I starter out very tight but aggressive playing few hands, but taking-down several hands in post flop play. I showed a Nut set in on hand (QQQ). I loosened mid-way and made a couple of questionable calls that I sucked out on. There are a few at the table that may have seen that, but if not my image should still be tight.

Game #609679053 - Tournament Coral - 1,000/2,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2004/10/07-22:54:19
(CST)
Table "Coral 38" (MTT) -- Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: PhiKappaPsi (26,234 in chips)
Seat 3: gambler1993 (33,006 in chips)
Seat 4: Lurshy (24,255 in chips)
Seat 5: Canary Leggs (13,557 in chips)
Seat 6: killerhand (17,312 in chips)
Seat 7: babyface2 (39,925 in chips)
Seat 8: shock & awe (12,607 in chips)
Seat 9: alvoid (57,307 in chips)
Seat 10: positano (19,379 in chips)
gambler1993: Ante (100)
Lurshy : Ante (100)
Canary Leggs: Ante (100)
killerhand: Ante (100)
babyface2: Ante (100)
shock & awe: Ante (100)
alvoid : Ante (100)
positano: Ante (100)
PhiKappaPsi: Ante (100)
babyface2: Post Small Blind (1,000)
shock & awe: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to Lurshy [ Js ]
Dealt to Lurshy [ Jh ]
alvoid : Fold
positano: Fold
PhiKappaPsi: Call (2,000)
gambler1993: Raise (6,000)
Lurshy : Raise (24,155)

UTG, & UTG+1 have folded MP1 has limped, and MP2 raised 3xBB. They both have me covered, but I pushed due to the following thinking:

I wanted to take down the pot. JJ multi-way isn't strong enough. If I just called, there would be about 3-1 pot odds for people behind me to call with, letting any two broadway cards or other hands into the pot behind me. If I raised the same as MP2 making it 12,000 to go I would be close to pot committed while giving him odds to call me.

I also like the idea that if I was called and was behind, I would get 5 cards to make a set, rather than possibly having to fold post flop and leaving myself in horrible shape.

My reads: Saw MP1 as wanting to see a flop cheap - weak play. I didn't expect a trap as open limping with a major PP is asking for trouble. I think He would have open raised a real hand. Small PP, or suited cards for him.

MP 2 I put on a steal or semi-steal (e.g. Ax small PP), the table was loosening slighlty (hence credit for sem-steal), the aggression looked oppourtunistic. With just limper in front of him, the raise looked suspicious. Am I just being optimistic? I did see him make probable steals on prior rounds. I am trying to think though if he had a real hand (AA-QQ, AK), would he play it different? maybe not.

So I pushed - figuring I was ahead, forcing a fold or call by weaker hand, and only risking CO, Button, SB, BB waking up with a serious PP.

What do you think of this play and logic? results later.
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