Is this a good floor decision at Wynn?

[highlife]

further confirming that all floorpeople in AC are clueless douches.

[daniel1222]

Thanks. That actually makes me feel slightly better.

Also, curious what you guys think of the consensus at the table that the three (at least) guys who saw the mistake at the time it was made and deliberately kept quiet about it were correct.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think it's insane how many people on here fail to correctly identify when they win a pot. How hard is it for you guys to look at your cards, look at your opponents cards, look at the board, and determine the winner?

[MicroBob]

they are not correct.

in this situation it should be okay to correct a dealer error.

people seem to confuse the whole but about 'one player to a hand' and not helping your opponents with correcting an obvious dealer error.
If I was at the table and saw this I would have certainly pointed it out and would not have felt like I was inapporiately sticking my nose where it didn't belong.


If I given the pot incorrectly I likely would have given it back after it was pointed out to me (or at least offered to split it. But I reserve the right to not do this if the opponent had been a non-stop jack-ass before this hand)

[StevieG]

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Also, curious what you guys think of the consensus at the table that the three (at least) guys who saw the mistake at the time it was made and deliberately kept quiet about it were correct.

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The three players acted unwisely and the concensus is incorrect.

If I spot a dealer mistake about awarding the pot I speak up, in the hand or not. Never have I been the only one to speak up.

The best hand wins, it avoids hard feelings like what you're writing now, and preserves the integrity of the game for everyone.

[Randy_Refeld]

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I had QQ at the Borgata in AC against 10J. Board was 10J55A. $600 pot was pushed to the other guy. I stupidly missed it. About three hands later, other players mentioned it saying they didn't feel like they had a right to interfere at the time. The whole table, including the 10J, agreed to all the cards. No one at the Borgata, not the dealer, or any floorman, will do anything. They will barely even listen to me. So pissed, but thought, ultimately, after the hand is over, it's over (as they kept telling me).

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There is a rule that once the next hand has begun the previous hand cannot be revisited; however, like all other ruels the floor may ignore the rule to do what is in the best interest of the game. Since they player that received the pot in error does not dispute that he had the losing hand he shoudl be given two option: (1) hand over the pot, (2) pick up and leave forever. When I have explained a players options in this manner they have always chosen (1).

[kyleb]

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I think it's insane how many people on here fail to correctly identify when they win a pot. How hard is it for you guys to look at your cards, look at your opponents cards, look at the board, and determine the winner?

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Seriously - it's not like you're multitabling.

ive seen some errors in my time at casinos and the bottom line is you have to know the game before u sit down , know everything that can beat u and watch out for yourself . If you have the winning hand and the dealer starts pushing it to someone else then u gotta yell at them and say what are u doing.....remember they are just human not robots...yet

[icepick]

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I was at a 2/4 table at Canterbury (on a date with Mrs. Milo)

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How romantic.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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I had QQ at the Borgata in AC against 10J. Board was 10J55A. $600 pot was pushed to the other guy. I stupidly missed it. About three hands later, other players mentioned it saying they didn't feel like they had a right to interfere at the time. The whole table, including the 10J, agreed to all the cards. No one at the Borgata, not the dealer, or any floorman, will do anything. They will barely even listen to me. So pissed, but thought, ultimately, after the hand is over, it's over (as they kept telling me).

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I've cut and paste directly from a January 2000 Hollywood Park Casino rulebook. This rule is identical in most other cardroom rules in LA (including Commerce). My guess is many other cardroom rulebooks have similar wording:

"The proper time to draw attention to an irregularity in your cards or to an error is when it occurs. No decision can be made by a floorperson once a new hand has begun. Any objection must be made before the first riffle of the shuffle for the next hand."

This rule keeps the floor staff from having to fix mistakes made in past hands where the facts are usually very hard to reconstruct (and chips from improperly awarded pots may already be lost) . Note the text I bolded. This specifies that a floorperson alone can't go back and fix the problem once the next hand starts. If the mistake is severe and clearly identifiable, a shift manager on up can in fact make things right.

~ Rick