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Old 08-11-2005, 08:03 PM
Chr Chr is offline
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

Didn't know it was 6-max! I thought it was full ring.
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Old 08-11-2005, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

Eff me.

Moving on!
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Old 08-11-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

am i the only one that thinks Hero is overexposing himself by always betting the pot?

it isnt always necessary to waste an entire pot bet to get information

if there are no draws out there and youve got AJ and hit an Ace why play it so hard, ropeadope baby
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Old 08-11-2005, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

You should be betting the pot with nothing often enough that they'll call with worse. If you notice they're folding, bet the pot with nothing more often until they start compensating. Protecting your hand has weight, too.

You never bet for information. Ever. You just happen to get information when they act. Based on the information you already have you make bets with (hopefully) a positive expectation. Whether betting to extract value, 'protect your hand', or as a pure bluff, the bets you make should have a positive expectation based on the information already available to you.
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Old 08-11-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

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am i the only one that thinks Hero is overexposing himself by always betting the pot?

it isnt always necessary to waste an entire pot bet to get information

if there are no draws out there and youve got AJ and hit an Ace why play it so hard, ropeadope baby

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OK, but arent I more likely to get bluff raised if I only bet 1/2 pot? I know I check raise people with nothing sometimes when they make what looks like a weak bet.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

Hand 4 also depends if it's rainbow or not.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

i never said the point of the bet was to get information

you bet your hand b/c of its value or because of odds the pots offering on a bluff, obviously

but getting the information you need to fold doesnt need to cost a full pot bet, if your holding is marginal but has value why always pot it, you need to consider this

also, im sure there are situations that occur, perhaps rarely, when your reason for betting should be almost entirely to get information.

you speak in absolutes with no justification provided; whats the deepest youve ever played? im guessing not very.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

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Hand 4 also depends if it's rainbow or not.

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Yes, I believe it was.
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Old 08-13-2005, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

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you speak in absolutes with no justification provided; whats the deepest youve ever played? im guessing not very.

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Yeah, that 50-100nl game is not deep at all. Maybe one day VanVeen can work up to playing with the big boys.
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Old 08-13-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?

I think the only questionable hand is number two.

fold isn't bad but I question whether people check almost minraise here with bigger verpair.

thats the only one I can go either way on.
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