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08-11-2005, 06:17 PM
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I folded these. Am I getting run over?
I seem to keep getting raised off my hand. Its happening more at Party than other places so I dont know if Im getting run over and folding too much or if Ive just run into better hands quite a bit. Here are a couple quick examples:
#1) 1 limper, I limp in LP with A5 of hearts. Both blinds play. Pot is $40. The flop comes AT5. Checked to me and I bet $40. Only the BB calls. Pot is $120. Turn is a Q. He checks and I bet $80. he check raises to $425 and has only another $150 behind. I fold. #2) Button limps, SB raises to $30. I call in the BB with 99. Button calls also. Pot is $90. Flop is 743 rainbow. SB checks, I bet $70. Button folds and then SB check raises to $175. I have $1000 and he has me covered. Hes shown down strong hands every time Ive seen him play big hands. I fold. (The hand just before this one he raised preflop and then checked an all rag all club flop and then raised the turn all in. He had AA with no club and beat QQ) #3) I limp in MP with AJ. LP limps and the blinds play. Pot $40. Flop is A85. Checked to me and I bet $40. LP folds and then one of the blinds check raises to $120. I fold. #4) EP raises to $30, 1 caller, I reraise to $120 with QQ. They both call. Pot is $375. The flop is 964. Checked to me and I bet $300. original raiser calls and then the other guy pushes all in. He has me covered and its another $775 to me. This has to be a fold right? I cant see how he could do that and not be able to beat QQ after the 1st guy called the $300. These hands are at different tables at different times so I dont think anyone is purposly raising me because they know I will fold, but since Ive only recently started playing this game alot (Party $5/$10), Im not sure if Im not making the proper adjustments from lower stakes and if Im letting them run over me too much. 
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#2
08-11-2005, 06:20 PM
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Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?
1 is awful
2 is fine 3 is fine 4 is fine Assuming no reads etc... Obviously answers will change depending on who specifically is making this play at you. You should be able to know when you are beat/when you aren't if you datamine and study opponents.
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#6
08-11-2005, 07:25 PM
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Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?
if i had played pf like you did in each of these (your play is fine), then i would fold eveery one of these almost every time.
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#7
08-11-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?
I would have folded all of them as you did.
I don't understand why anyone would continue on hand 1. Only indication is that the raise is so big at one might get suspicious. Maybe he has a lower 2 pair? I would still fold.
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#8
08-11-2005, 07:51 PM
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Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?
"I don't understand why anyone would continue on hand 1"
When someone asks questions like Iceman, he can only be asking one thing: given your general model of a random opponent at 5/10nl six-max, can I profitably continue in any of these hands? Given what I know about the game, the hand range I assign to villain is such that calling in hand 1 is the correct play with no read. I can see that a gutshot just came and that there are better two pairs. I don't care. The hand range I assign to a random 5/10nl player given his stack and the action is such that going all-in is the correct play. What else could I possibly be saying?
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#9
08-11-2005, 07:56 PM
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Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?
As someone who has played in these games extensively, I fold hand 1 pretty quickly.
It is quite an abnormally large check-raise, which is suspicious. Having said that, I still confidently fold.
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#10
08-11-2005, 07:57 PM
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Re: I folded these. Am I getting run over?
[ QUOTE ]
"I don't understand why anyone would continue on hand 1" When someone asks questions like Iceman, he can only be asking one thing: given your general model of a random opponent at 5/10nl six-max, can I profitably continue in any of these hands? Given what I know about the game, the hand range I assign to villain is such that calling in hand 1 is the correct play with no read. I can see that a gutshot just came and that there are better two pairs. I don't care. The hand range I assign to a random 5/10nl player given his stack and the action is such that going all-in is the correct play. What else could I possibly be saying? [/ QUOTE ] Its full ring, not 6 max.
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