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Old 08-05-2005, 10:46 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

yeah, I have not been very successfull pushing from SB when someone else has limped. win some, but might be losing more that I win in this situation...
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

I also find this move works best when your opponent has chips to spare, but not TOO many, say for example 12-13BB and has limped. When it's a loose or tight player (unless he's very weak-tight or weak-loose), putting in so much of their stack, they feel "committed" and will call too much to make it an +EV move. Even when they have a bigger stack though, it still depends if they're basically a moron, but when your stack is around half theirs and the limp isn't much, they do tend to lay down more. From my experience.
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:14 PM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

1) hate it

2) hate it

3) borderline, but I wouldn't do it (I'm guessing that
many players would though)

4) standard
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:16 PM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

[ QUOTE ]
1) hate it

2) hate it

3) borderline, but I wouldn't do it (I'm guessing that
many players would though)

4) standard

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree.
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:28 PM
DMACM DMACM is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

Whats so bad about hand 1? Hes suited and he still has fold equity for the time being but not much longer. I would bet that on a tight calling range this would be +ev. Is the small stack being loose the problem?

oops I thought he was on the button
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:29 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

[ QUOTE ]
1) hate it
2) hate it
3) borderline, but I wouldn't do it (I'm guessing that
many players would though)
4) standard

[/ QUOTE ]

So what do you specifically hate? The position, the cards???
my guess is hand 1 bad position from CO, Hand 2 bad cards w/ a limper, hand 3 you don't like the 2 kicker... is that correct? (by the way I won w/ hand 3, but I suspected that it still may have been a bad play which is why it is included)
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:35 PM
danger_mouse danger_mouse is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

I agree that hand #2 is pretty weak. But all other hands (with the possible exception of #1 because of the short stack) seem like +ev FE situations.

Could someone school me here?
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

[ QUOTE ]
1) hate it

2) hate it

3) borderline, but I wouldn't do it (I'm guessing that
many players would though)

4) standard

[/ QUOTE ]
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:59 PM
rydazzle rydazzle is offline
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Default Re: $11\'s Good pushes ? (4 hands)

1 is marginal but understandable
2 is very bad b/c of the call from floppy
3 is a bit better than 1 but still marginal
4 is correct
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