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Old 08-06-2005, 02:36 AM
iggy iggy is offline
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Default Re: Push during first blind level with AQo -- is this a mistake?

With JJ I'll call, but thats because it's already a made hand. The problem with AQ is that unless he has a weaker ace, you're not going to go into this enough of a favorite to put your tournament at risk this early.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Push during first blind level with AQo -- is this a mistake?

You have too many chips behind for you to properly re-resteal. The bigger his stack, the more he can make you take a decision for you stack that's not for his. If you reraise, you're committed, and AA, KK, QQ, all the hands you don't want to see are coming over the top. But he can easily fold a hand like AT or A9 here if you want to do this.

Folding is really, really correct here.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Push during first blind level with AQo -- is this a mistake?

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So everybody seems to agree that folding AQ to the reraise is easily the correct move here, but I'm having a hard time letting this go. It's not because 60 chips are that hard to let go of, but it's because Villain has made the same play 3 times in the last orbit.

If I have AJ or worse this is an easy fold. If I have AK, this is (probably mistakenly) an easy push for me (given that the same guy has made the same play 3x in a row, representing a big hand each time, it's unlikely he always has aces or kings, and I'm happy to take a coinflip to demonstrate that I won't be pushed around so easily).

AQ seems like the crossover hand in my mind. I know it's a weak hand, but it's not *that* weak. Though the history can't say whether or not he has a monster, what if he had done this the last 6 raises? Would you still fold AQ? If you're going to fold AQ, would you also fold AK here? Do you just wait until you have aces or kings and he makes this move, or until the level is higher and more aggressive play is justified, or wait for somebody else to look him up and note what he shows down?

I'm seriously looking for advice on how to deal with this situation: at a SnG table, blinds low relative to your stack, one player is very aggressive: you haven't seen a hand, but he is reraising preflop more often than you would expect a person to be dealt a monster. You are dealt a reasonably strong hand (AQ or JJ, say). You bet, he reraises, you ...

Thanks in advance for your futher input. I appreciate it.

-cj

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This sounds to me a bit like you are trying to be a table cop and feel it is down to you to stop this guy making these raises as you have picked up something approaching a playable hand.

Why put your tourney on the line with a marginal hand. Your job isn't to keep everyone else in line - its to win the tourney. If you are a good enough player surely a situation will come along later where you have a bigger edge than you do here.

I used to have a hard time laying down in these situations too but now I always remind myself of what Sklansky talks about in TOP - every hand begins as a battle for the blinds. With blinds this small I'll only go to war with a premium hand : AQ isn't it.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Push during first blind level with AQo -- is this a mistake?

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With JJ I'll call, but thats because it's already a made hand. The problem with AQ is that unless he has a weaker ace, you're not going to go into this enough of a favorite to put your tournament at risk this early.

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JJ is a mistake also. Any 2 overs and you are a slight favorite to win. Search for ICM in the search function and it will explain what I am talking about alittle better.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: Push during first blind level with AQo -- is this a mistake?

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With JJ I'll call, but thats because it's already a made hand. The problem with AQ is that unless he has a weaker ace, you're not going to go into this enough of a favorite to put your tournament at risk this early.

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JJ is a mistake also. Any 2 overs and you are a slight favorite to win. Search for ICM in the search function and it will explain what I am talking about alittle better.

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I think there's merit for calling/shoving JJ here, or something like that. Much stronger than AQ anyway. I think you see TT-77 and maybe AJ here. AQ is terrible against that range, and JJ would fare quite well.

At least, it's a better hand to call and shove any non A or K flop.
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