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Old 10-18-2005, 11:06 PM
jerseypoker2 jerseypoker2 is offline
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Default Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

I would like some suggestions from some of you here.

I'm about to order a set of chips for a tourney. The chip color/amounts are going to be:

green 25
black 100
purple 500
yellow/orange 1000

First, we have about 10 guys playing regularly, and I would like to do a T1500 or T2000 tourney that lasts about 3-4 hours using these colors. I would like the blinds not to be too crazy.

I'm thinking 20 minute rounds of:

25-50
50-100
75-150

100-200
200-300
300-400

400-500
500-1000
700-1400

1000-2000
1500-3000
2000-4000
2500-5000

etc.

I would like to keep it at a 500 chip set...

Ok, here are the questions:

How many of each chip should I order?
Should I even bother with the 1000 chip, go to a 5000, or scrap it and get more of the lower chips?

Any suggestions on chip amounts or better blind structure?
Keep in mind i don't want 1 or 5 chips, as that's for the cash games on the side.
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

For the middle rounds, did you mean 100-200, 150-300, 200-400 and 250-500?

It's pretty easy to figure out how many chips you need, the trick is telling how many chips you need after coloring up:

I'll usually figure out how many chips I need per player. For example, let's say you start with $1500 chips (8x$25 + 8x$100 + 1x$500 = $1500).

After the first color up, the 8x$25 will be replaced by 2x$100, so for each player you have 10x$100+1x$500 = $1500.

After the second color up, the 10x$100 in play will be replaced by 2x$500, so now you'll just have 3x$500 = $1500.

So, for each player you'll need 8x$25, 10x$100 and 3x$500. Then for a ten player tournament you'll need 80/100/30, for a 16 player tournament you'll need 128/160/48, etc. Unless you really want to introduce a higher-value chip or start with more chips, I've found you can get by with just the 3 colors/denoms.

Check out homepokertourney, they have the best collection of info on running your own tournament.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:06 AM
Zetack Zetack is offline
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

[ QUOTE ]
I would like some suggestions from some of you here.

I'm about to order a set of chips for a tourney. The chip color/amounts are going to be:

green 25
black 100
purple 500
yellow/orange 1000

First, we have about 10 guys playing regularly, and I would like to do a T1500 or T2000 tourney that lasts about 3-4 hours using these colors. I would like the blinds not to be too crazy.

I'm thinking 20 minute rounds of:

25-50
50-100
75-150

100-200
200-300
300-400

400-500
500-1000
700-1400

1000-2000
1500-3000
2000-4000
2500-5000

etc.

I would like to keep it at a 500 chip set...

Ok, here are the questions:

How many of each chip should I order?
Should I even bother with the 1000 chip, go to a 5000, or scrap it and get more of the lower chips?

Any suggestions on chip amounts or better blind structure?
Keep in mind i don't want 1 or 5 chips, as that's for the cash games on the side.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your structure is brutal, and I personally wouldn't find it very much fun.

Assuming 2000 in starting chips after 40 minutes if your stack is still around the starting size you are down to 13 BB's and after an hour you're down to 10 BB's. Basically you have 20 minutes of blinds you can play with, and after that you're in, "you have to win the next hand you play or be crippled or out" territory.

--Zetack
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:27 AM
hachkc hachkc is offline
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

Starting chip stack is way too low. You are only starting them with 30BB (T1500) or 40BB (T2000); most tournaments begin somewhere between 50BB to 100BBB. You should probably start them with T2500 - T5000 if you starting BB is 50. For 10 folks, try this breakout for a T3000 tourney:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
12 x 25 = 300
12 x 100 = 1200
3 x 500 = 1500

A possible chip breakout for 10 players might be 160 x 25, 200 x 100, 100 x 500 and 40 x 1000.
</pre><hr />

Here is a spreadsheet that might help with your setup and chip counts.
http://home.comcast.net/~hachkc/tourney_setup.xls
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:33 PM
Precept2 Precept2 is offline
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

We play every Wednesday night, and we start with T2000. Our blind structure is similar with the addition of the 75-150 level. It works out well, but you'll never get 3-4 hours out of it - ours last about 2 hours. You'd have to up it to T4000 or so.

Our buy-in is $20, so we use T2000 to start.
When we have a $40 buy-in, we up it to T4000.
When we have a $50 buy-in, we up it to T5000.
I hope you get the idea.

By the way, under "the starting big blind"
http://<a href="http://www.homepoker...blinds.htm</a> shows that 25BB to 50BB is sufficient.
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:21 PM
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I'm running my first tourney on Friday (small stakes, $10-20 buy-in), and I'm wondering if they are right when they say 50xBB is sufficient.

If you follow their advice, you start with 1000 and the blinds are 10/20. If you and an opponent get good starting cards, you can easily lose half your stack, even at 10/20. E.g., you raise 3xBB to 60. You get a call and the blinds fold. The pot is 150. If you bet the pot on the flop, and get a call you have a T450 pot. You've already put 210 in the pot and a pot sized bet on the turn and river will put you all in.

So I was thinking of using that blind structure, but starting with 1500. Good idea?

Also, because there will be some beginners, I was thinking of making it a rebuy tourney, so my guests won't be out in one hour and having nothing to do. I would assume that, for a rebuy tourney (rebuys only allowed in the first hour), T1000 starting stacks are sufficient because if people are eliminated, they can re-buy. Thoughts?
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:25 AM
EasilyFound EasilyFound is offline
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

My group uses blind structure similar to above, starting at 25/50, and w/a 150/300 level, w/blind increases every 15 minutes. Last night, our first tourney, w/9 players, started w/T2500 and ended in about an hour when final 2 chopped the pot. Our second tourney, also w/same 9 players, started w/T3000 and lasted two hours, with the final two playing it out and ending at blind level 400/800.

When someone else hosts, we start w/T2000.

Chip stacks and blind structure are designed to play two tourneys w/in no more than 4 hours. It is fun, but very much a crap shoot once the blinds increase.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:06 AM
Scotty O Scotty O is offline
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

Best Tourney Structure found Here


[ QUOTE ]
I would like some suggestions from some of you here.

I'm about to order a set of chips for a tourney. The chip color/amounts are going to be:

green 25
black 100
purple 500
yellow/orange 1000

First, we have about 10 guys playing regularly, and I would like to do a T1500 or T2000 tourney that lasts about 3-4 hours using these colors. I would like the blinds not to be too crazy.

I'm thinking 20 minute rounds of:

25-50
50-100
75-150

100-200
200-300
300-400

400-500
500-1000
700-1400

1000-2000
1500-3000
2000-4000
2500-5000

etc.

I would like to keep it at a 500 chip set...

Ok, here are the questions:

How many of each chip should I order?
Should I even bother with the 1000 chip, go to a 5000, or scrap it and get more of the lower chips?

Any suggestions on chip amounts or better blind structure?
Keep in mind i don't want 1 or 5 chips, as that's for the cash games on the side.

[/ QUOTE ]
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:27 AM
jerseypoker2 jerseypoker2 is offline
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

Yeah, douche, I did that, but didn't find what I was looking for. Wow, you actually took time to link to the search page, instead of just not answering the post. You went out of your way to read the message, post the link, etc. Let me guess, you're some wanna-be tough guy on the web, but in the "real world", you just a mousy nerd.

Last time I checked internet forums were for discussion, questions, and answers. And guess what, not every question has been answered already.



[ QUOTE ]
Best Tourney Structure found Here


[ QUOTE ]
I would like some suggestions from some of you here.

I'm about to order a set of chips for a tourney. The chip color/amounts are going to be:

green 25
black 100
purple 500
yellow/orange 1000

First, we have about 10 guys playing regularly, and I would like to do a T1500 or T2000 tourney that lasts about 3-4 hours using these colors. I would like the blinds not to be too crazy.

I'm thinking 20 minute rounds of:

25-50
50-100
75-150

100-200
200-300
300-400

400-500
500-1000
700-1400

1000-2000
1500-3000
2000-4000
2500-5000

etc.

I would like to keep it at a 500 chip set...

Ok, here are the questions:

How many of each chip should I order?
Should I even bother with the 1000 chip, go to a 5000, or scrap it and get more of the lower chips?

Any suggestions on chip amounts or better blind structure?
Keep in mind i don't want 1 or 5 chips, as that's for the cash games on the side.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: Tourney Blind/Chip Help...

[ QUOTE ]
I'm running my first tourney on Friday (small stakes, $10-20 buy-in), and I'm wondering if they are right when they say 50xBB is sufficient.


[/ QUOTE ]

My tourney went well. I followed the structure at Home Poker Tourney, using 20 minute levels. I had 9 people enter with 1 re-buy, and it ended in 3 hours 10 minutes. Unfortunately, it seemed like it was going on too long, because the players were just trying to end the tourney as quickly as possible at the end. (The third place guy was going all-in at every hand without even looking at his cards). The second place guy went all in on a pure bluff. I assume that it was just getting a little late for them. So I may have to shorten the blinds a bit, maybe to 15 minutes. Or I could just start the tourney when it was supposed to, instead of 20 minutes late.

My next tourney may be a bit bigger. One person who couldn't make it last time is sure to make it this time, and I'll probably try to invite a few more people.
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