Status quo on this one?

Right, so it's PP 30-60 and we're ten handed. I've been at the table for three hours and I'm playing pretty tight because i was at work and wasn't bored enough to open up a new bag of tricks. There are three players in the game that are mediocre at best, and that's why i'm playing while i'm at work, also why I was playing tight. This hand might seem very standard, but I'd like you guys to critique, applaud, or bash all to hell if your heart so desires.


Tex is SB, K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Folds around to CO, who raises. ( mediocre player, playing aggressive, but not playing a lot of hands, either)

Button folds, I three bet, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop

J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I lead, CO raises, I call.

Turn 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, CO checks behind.

River 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet....


Boringly standard here?

What is villain raising with here on the flop, to, presumably, take a free card besides the obvious choice....?


BTW, do you think small pockets pay off in this spot or do they generally fold without an A or a J???

[bicyclekick]

Check and fold the river.

Thanks, BK, for the input. Could you elaborate a little?

And what do you think the flop raise means in this spot?

[drbk2]

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Thanks, BK, for the input. Could you elaborate a little?

And what do you think the flop raise means in this spot?

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That he either has an Ace and will fire at you again on the turn or check behind on the turn and pay off almost any river.

You dont think he's folding any thing besides a busted draw on the river here?

what about PF? good line by me?


Tex

Tex,
I dont like your river line, When your opponent raises the flop and checks the turn, he can have all kinds of hands including QT,T8,KT,Q8. In my opinion he either has one of these 4 hands or a weak made hand that he wants to showdown cheaply. Once you get to the river, a bet has no value, for you will just make him fold his busted draws or call with his weak made hand. You shouldve checked the river with the intention of calling all bets since you will snap a bluff enough of the time to make this call profitable. You have the nonpair nuts, theres no reason to bet the river, and theres no way in hell you should fold this river on that board given that action. Checking and calling makes more money in the long run than betting out in my opinion.

[Klepton]

the only hand that folds this river is 22-88, and even then i think it would be only 25%.

not that bad though. and i like PF

Thanks. I was thinking that's the right play PF. But you go with the check/fold river UI?

[drbk2]

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Thanks. I was thinking that's the right play PF. But you go with the check/fold river UI?

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Yeah everything is fine except for the river bet, which really isn't all that bad either. I agree with Klepton that you probably won't get something better to fold enough to warrant a river bet.

[bpb]

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the only hand that folds this river is 22-88, and even then i think it would be only 25%.

not that bad though. and i like PF

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Your average PP 30-60 player hates to fold. In a blind stealing situation, they REALLY hate to fold. In a blind stealing situation with trips on the board, where they hold any pocket pair, they aren't folding unless they misclick.

I see 88-22 folding < 5% of the time here.

Checking may also induce a bluff by a busted straight draw. I'd need a good read to check-fold.