River decision against LP

aargh57 · #1 10-03-2005, 01:31 PM

I'm thinking this is probably an easy decision but maybe not.

Crypto 1/2 pound tables 6 max 6 handed

SB is very LP. He's in almost all hands and chases with just about any part of the flop. UTG is also LP.

Hero is in MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls

Flop (8 SB)
3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to hero who bets, villain calls, BB folds, UTG calls

Turn (5.5 BB)

5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to hero who bets, Villain calls, UTG calls

River (8.5 BB)

6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets, UTG folds, Hero?

sean c · #2 10-03-2005, 01:47 PM

Call. River donk bets from fish can mean anything. Your easily good here 10% of the time.

Absolution · #3 10-03-2005, 01:51 PM

You're done. A passive opponents wakes up on the river? He's betting to make sure it isn't checked through. I don't think you're good 1 in 10.5 times here. I fold.

Absolution · #4 10-03-2005, 01:54 PM

Really? I would agree if you said turn or even flop instead of river. For a passive opponent this seems pretty clear to me. The biggest problem I see is you folding to a scare card and that may be an easy read, even for the weak passives.

POKhER · #5 10-03-2005, 02:02 PM

*sniff* Flush *Snif* Mmmmm Flush!

Fold. But call occasionally so your opponents dont think your a weak tight wossssssss

shadow29 · #6 10-03-2005, 02:03 PM

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You're done. A passive opponents wakes up on the river? He's betting to make sure it isn't checked through. I don't think you're good 1 in 10.5 times here. I fold.

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You probably lose money at 6max.

shadow29 · #7 10-03-2005, 02:04 PM

I can't believe people are folding this hand so quickly.

Bad poker.

Redd · #8 10-03-2005, 02:05 PM

This really depends on the reliability of your read. If you're very certain he is in fact an LPP (as in, haven't seen him bet without a very strong hand for a few hundred hands), then I can find a fold here. If you're calling him LPP because you've seen him play for a couple orbits and he's check-called down with TP against your pfr one time, then I call.

@bsolute_luck · #9 10-03-2005, 02:06 PM

call. fold. either one is fine and i'd have no problems or regrets about either.

sean c · #10 10-03-2005, 02:09 PM

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Really? I would agree if you said turn or even flop instead of river. For a passive opponent this seems pretty clear to me. The biggest problem I see is you folding to a scare card and that may be an easy read, even for the weak passives.

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River donks of scare cards from bad players always make me suspicious but a good post flop read would help i just assume that since villian plays to many hands and plays them passivly that he is bad.