3/6 88 turn decision

popeye18 · #1 11-12-2005, 04:26 PM

Didnt have much of a read on button here but hasnt done anything too crazy to catch my eye. SB is 22/16/2.25 after 90 hands and seems decent. Im not really sure what to do here on the turn. Also, does anyone play it diffrently pf?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

Starzinger · #2 11-12-2005, 06:16 PM

Hmm, i dont know, after pokerstoving this a little, im beginning to think that it might be best to cap this.
If you can get button out, you'll have position, and be HU. If he thinks buttons raise is a steal, and threebets fairly liberaly, i think we're almost a coinflip compared to his range. Since we're getting 6-4 if we cap, plus position and FE, it might be worth it.

Am i wrong?

kapw7 · #3 11-12-2005, 06:39 PM

Interesting line. But we don't know if button is capable of folding for 2 bets with a stealing hand and on the other hand SB seems very tight to 3-bet lightly with bad position. I am not sure...

#4 11-12-2005, 07:37 PM

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...and on the other hand SB seems very tight to 3-bet lightly with bad position.

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Especially when the blind structure is 1/3.

Spicymoose · #5 11-12-2005, 07:40 PM

Bet the turn. Often enough noone has an ace. You really don't wanna give free cards in this situation.

Spicymoose · #6 11-12-2005, 07:45 PM

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Hmm, i dont know, after pokerstoving this a little, im beginning to think that it might be best to cap this.
If you can get button out, you'll have position, and be HU. If he thinks buttons raise is a steal, and threebets fairly liberaly, i think we're almost a coinflip compared to his range. Since we're getting 6-4 if we cap, plus position and FE, it might be worth it.

Am i wrong?

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At first I thought we should just call preflop, but I just PokerStoved it myself. If Button raises the top 30% of his hands or:

55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,A5o,K9o+,Q9o +,J9o+,T9o

and SB raises the following hands (turns out to about 14%):

77+,A8s+,K9s+,QTs+,A9o+,KTo+

Then 88 has 34% equity!

Even if we tighten things down and give button the top 25% of hands, and SB the top 10% (which would be really tight raising standards, and probably unrealistic, but I am using as a "worst case"), we still have 32% equity. This means that we have a clear cap, as along with our equity edge (or at least equity neutrality), we have initiative, and position against our most feared opponent, SB. On top of this, we get the added benefit when Button folds.

ArturiusX · #7 11-12-2005, 07:46 PM

Bet the turn. Better hands are folding.