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Medium pair, cutoff position
MP2 is agressive but sometimes a bit unsound. My first half hour against him.
Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls. Reraise to isolate feels standard here. Is it? At least it actually worked, and no clowns coldcalled it with two random high cards.... Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls. Is this worth a bet or not? I am either way ahead (he has KQ/KJ or he's being crazy) or way behind (he has an ace, or a bigger pair) and more likely to be behind, even opposite a live one. I was hoping he'd fold, and going to fold if he checkraised me. But as it turned out, I learned just about nothing from the flop action. Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP2 checks, Hero .... Well, I'm still either way ahead or way behind - but now I'm way behind if he has a jack too. What now? |
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
Bet, fold to a checkraise.
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
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Bet, fold to a checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] You're saying this because he should maintain his line of leading instead of showing any weakness? This hand is so marginal I just wouldn't bet into it. Perhaps I'm missing something. |
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
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[ QUOTE ] Bet, fold to a checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] You're saying this because he should maintain his line of leading instead of showing any weakness? This hand is so marginal I just wouldn't bet into it. Perhaps I'm missing something. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you're missing that Hero is second to act? |
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet, fold to a checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] You're saying this because he should maintain his line of leading instead of showing any weakness? This hand is so marginal I just wouldn't bet into it. Perhaps I'm missing something. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you're missing that Hero is second to act? [/ QUOTE ] Funny you say that because I re-read the hand before I saw your post and just noticed that, which in turn changed my line. |
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
Bet the turn. You are representing a strong hand like a high pocket pair or an AK. To check here would allow villian to lead the river and win without a made hand. He may have a pocket pair and is willing to call you all the way down. He may also have a higher pocket pair and lay it down to your bluff. I think slowing down leaves you no way to win where as betting gives you the best chance.
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
To begin with this is a marginal call from the CO. Since you decided to play it against a small field a 3-bet is even worse pre-flop. If you miss your set your going to spew chips a lot of times or be in some awkward situations - like this one for instance. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I like the flop bet. You are probably ahead at this point and your opponents are incorrectly betting over cards or MP2 has a medium pair like 99-JJ. The turn in my opinion is a check/fold. You have a very small chance of still being ahead and with a small pot, it's just not worth playing it. - I stand corrected. I would bet/fold here after re-reading the hand. |
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
I have a general question about this hand though. Is it a good idea to try and isolate with a medium pair with a raise ahead of you? My view on this is that it's not.
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
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I have a general question about this hand though. Is it a good idea to try and isolate with a medium pair with a raise ahead of you? My view on this is that it's not. [/ QUOTE ] an MP2 open raise should be a fairly wide range if the opponent is position aware. |
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Re: Medium pair, cutoff position
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an MP2 open raise should be a fairly wide range if the opponent is position aware. [/ QUOTE ] I understand that, but why take a chance with a hand that A) could already be dominated, or B) will be after the flop. I can see doing this if there were more coming along for the ride, but this just doesn't make sense to me at all. |
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