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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
I just got Texas Hold'em Odds by Catalin Baroianu so I thought I'd revisit this thread. If I understand these charts correctly, vs 2 opponents, the chances of at least one of them making a flush by the river when 3 suited cards flop are 30.402%. OTOH, the chances of my improving to a full house by the river are 16.466% So, barring the case where one of my opponents has AA or QQ pockets, I am behind by the river only 13.936% of the time. Adding in AA & QQ pockets or other flopped sets reduces my chances some more but I'm still a clear favorite, as virtually all of you pointed out.
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
I would play the hand pretty much like you did... except I would bet the flop, turn, and river. If raised on the flop I would have 3 bet and if 4 bet go into check/call mode, if raised on the turn or river I would go into check/call mode. Oh, and if club comes on river and it is heads-up I would check-call, and if there is 2 players left probably check-fold depending on who was betting and my position relative to the bettor.
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
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and if there is 2 players left probably check-fold depending on who was betting and my position relative to the bettor. [/ QUOTE ] You can't fold to a bet on turn in this pot due to your 4 outs. |
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
i think he meant on the river againts two opponents
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
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Oh, and if club comes on river and it is heads-up I would check-call [/ QUOTE ] If heads-up I think bet/fold is the better line on the river. |
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
Yeah, your assessment is pretty accurate. Pump this puppy hard until another club hits.
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
I bet out on this flop with top two and call a raise. On a non- [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn I either bet/3-bet or C/R depending on the aggression of my opponent. I never give credit for a flopped flush against two with a less than 1% chance. I'm also not giving credit for a steal raiser having AA/QQ especially with me holding one of each. It's going to take a turn cap to convince me and go into check/call mode on the river with my FH outs.
If anyone sees any problems with this line please speak up. |
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
The first thing I thought of is fear. Respectfully NW, your post oozes with it and I'm surprised the responders let you off so easily. I'd be willing to bet money that this isn't just one leak you have to plug as you mentioned. Even your use of the word danger implies you're the hunted not the hunter. To fear a set or a flush on the flop is bad. Other posters have given you fine alternatives to the way you played the hand but it sounds like you are missing some fundamentals, imo. I would suggest getting to know Ed Miller's book backwards and forwards if you don't already. Not trying to be an a*ss, but I'm almost positive there are other hands you are not playing close to optimally based on this one post.
And keep posting! |
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
First of all, there's no reason for you think that you are behind at any point in this hand. Check raise the flop and cap if 3bet. Bet the turn, call the raise, make sure noone gets a free card.
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Re: The only thing I did right was 3 bet pre-flop.
Yeah, you played this horribly post-flop. Do you usually play this scared? Your results can't be too good.
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