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Re: First time I thought about laying down Kings preflop
It's fine to think this, but it's probably a bad idea to actually fold. It could just as easily be QQ.
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It's fine to think this, but it's probably a bad idea to actually fold. It could just as easily be QQ. [/ QUOTE ] His range is what? I'm what against his range? (Furthermore, which I know this is never correct to do, but my instincts were that he had AA/KK here). |
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Re: First time I thought about laying down Kings preflop
I suppose his range would be AA-QQ and possibly AK? Those are the only hands I would consider raising to 200 with.
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I suppose his range would be AA-QQ and possibly AK? Those are the only hands I would consider raising to 200 with. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm certain, not positive, but I'm pretty damn certain, AK is not in that range here. Splash, you play more aggressive with AK than others. I've seen that out of you. |
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Re: First time I thought about laying down Kings preflop
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[ QUOTE ] I suppose his range would be AA-QQ and possibly AK? Those are the only hands I would consider raising to 200 with. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm certain, not positive, but I'm pretty damn certain, AK is not in that range here. Splash, you play more aggressive with AK than others. I've seen that out of you. [/ QUOTE ] Yea...depends on what mood I'm in, haha. I don't know if my aggressiveness is a good thing or a leak though. |
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Re: First time I thought about laying down Kings preflop
I'd say the raiser's range really depends on AAAMAN's profile so far. Against a super-LAG, my reraising range could be as loose as AJs+,AQo+,99+. KK plays pretty well against that. On the other hand, if the original raiser is a tightish player, my overcalling range could be as tight as AA/KK only, and even KK would make me stop to think.
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Re: First time I thought about laying down Kings preflop
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I'd say the raiser's range really depends on AAAMAN's profile so far. Against a super-LAG, my reraising range could be as loose as AJs+,AQo+,99+. KK plays pretty well against that. On the other hand, if the original raiser is a tightish player, my overcalling range could be as tight as AA/KK only, and even KK would make me stop to think. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, that is one huge range. You really think he'd reraise with 99 or AJs? I wouldn't even open raise those hands at this level. |
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Re: First time I thought about laying down Kings preflop
In quasi's shoes, a player (AAAMAN in this case) with 70% VPIP and 35% PFR is just asking to be isolated. 99 and AJs are both good enough for me to play for all my chips at any point against the top 35% of hands. I would be re-raising to isolate at that point. On the other hand, with no read or anything other than a super-LAG read, my reraising range is probably more like AKs,JJ+, and KK still plays just fine against those.
It's never a fold, but it's not an easy spot. |
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It's fine to think this, but it's probably a bad idea to actually fold. It could just as easily be QQ. [/ QUOTE ] I'm bored tonight and pissed off due to my own mental lapse so I'm gonna flame somebody and it may as well be you (sorry): No, it can't be QQ. What good player does this near minimum pot odds reraise crap with QQ? Give me a break. It miiiiight be AK (I've seen it played this way as sort of a semibluff) or little to nothing if he decided he wanted 85 chips. (I'm not saying there's a good chance of that, I'm saying it's theoretically possible.) But it's not QQ unless he misclicked. I'm probably not folding this, BTW. edit: 99? 99??? Come ON, he's number 4 on the leaderboard and you think he makes an 85 chip bet 200 with 99? |
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No, it can't be QQ. What good player does this near minimum pot odds reraise crap with QQ? Give me a break. [/ QUOTE ] These are my thoughts about QQ as well, which leads me to believe that I'm narrowing his hand range down to 2 hands. If you believe this as well (which I can't tell), why wouldn't you fold this? |
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