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Old 12-17-2005, 09:14 AM
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Default QQ...you be the judge.

BBs capping range is TT+, AQs+.
Both villians are reasonable post flop, though not great.
Bet made hands, call with draws...ABCDE

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>,<font color="#CC3333"> MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> BB caps</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333"> Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

I think i'd shutdown and c/c unimproved after the three bet on the flop, but that may be weak.....
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

Do you think you have the best hand, or are you trying to get a better hand to fold?
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

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Do you think you have the best hand, or are you trying to get a better hand to fold?

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Both. I think I have MP beat (if he just calls) and I'm hoping to fold a better hand from BB.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

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Do you think you have the best hand, or are you trying to get a better hand to fold?

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Both. I think I have MP beat (if he just calls) and I'm hoping to fold a better hand from BB.

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You're not going to get many players to fold an AA or KK overpair too often.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

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Do you think you have the best hand, or are you trying to get a better hand to fold?

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Both. I think I have MP beat (if he just calls) and I'm hoping to fold a better hand from BB.

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You're not going to get many players to fold an AA or KK overpair too often.

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It doesn't have to work too often to have value.

EDIT: Add QQ to the list too.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

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Do you think you have the best hand, or are you trying to get a better hand to fold?

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Both. I think I have MP beat (if he just calls) and I'm hoping to fold a better hand from BB.

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You're not going to get many players to fold an AA or KK overpair too often.

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It doesn't have to work too often to have value.

EDIT: Add QQ to the list too.

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It still needs to work somewhere if it has any value. Do you really think he's going to 3-bet the turn and fold to a raise?
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

*grunch*

Preflop seems standard.

The flop makes sense to me.

I think I'd just call on this turn card. The preflop cap and flop 3-bet make me think it's possible I'm behind, though TT and JJ are totally possible.

The river check from BB is odd. I might suspect some attempt to trap with JJ here. I likely would not have raised.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

Overall you confused the heck out of me here. You rasie on flop and turn but don't cap thr re-raise. Did u think you were ahead or behind...

Preflop - ok

Flop - like the raise and normally if he 3 bets I'm probably c/c the rest of the way UI. If you are really sure of his capping range though, you beat everything but KK and AA so depending on your level of confidence I'd probably cap the flop. If he doesn't slow down on the turn then c/c for one bet and fold to a raise if UI.

Turn and river - I probably just c/c but I think u can make the same argument here that I did on the flop (it's just a more expensive way to find out where you are).
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: QQ...you be the judge.

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Turn and river - I probably just c/c but I think u can make the same argument here that I did on the flop (it's just a more expensive way to find out where you are).

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So I put in the extra BB to find out I'm much more likely to be behind. And I'll call down anyway. That's a terrible line.
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