What flop decisions do you struggle with most?

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What flop decisions do you struggle with most?

when i dont flop a set

[Stinkybeaver]

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The flop is really where you develop your plan for the whole hand, so it's a loaded question you're asking.

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Yep, when u are playing good poker every flop develops like a treestructure in your head where u know what to do in each possible situation. If it doesnt, well, there you got something to struggle with.

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I'm definately not doing this enough, so is there a good way to start some practice in this skill..?

The thing that I struggle with on the flop is if I should bet out when I'm the preflop raiser on a lame board. I think I do this way to much since it seems that the lags at 3/6 will give me enough action when I hit and will go to showdown with a single piece of the board.

[Lash]

I feel like I may lack a practical understanding of when and why I should be betting /raising on the flop as opposed to waiting until the turn. In other words, when and why to apply maximum pressure with made hands.

The above is of course complicated by hand strength, position and many other factors...but regardless of what all the variables are... this seems to be the area I question most when looking at flop scenarios.

[jba]

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What flop decisions do you struggle with most?

when i dont flop a set

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ha nice one.

seriously though, I never really feel all that lost on the flop or the river, it's the turn that is the real bitch


flop play is a science river play is an art and the turn is some f'd up voodoo

[Lash]

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not thinking on flop and just doing ur standard call with 4 outs and then suddenly have to wake up on turn if u hit something ok but not great and then try to reconstruct the betting from preflop and flop and try to know what to do on turn.

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That’s exactly why I’m on this “flop tangent” in breaking down my game. I often find myself analyzing a turn or river decision only to find that I have no clue how I got to that point.

It seems only natural to analyze what brought you to various turn and river decisions. In other words… What was your plan on the flop? What was your motive, your blueprint for the action?

I realize that pre-flop is where it all really starts, but so much changes on the flop that it seems like a logical place to look when re-building ones game. I’m not often in flop situations wondering what got me there, but I am often wondering where I’m going.

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flop play is a science river play is an art and the turn is some f'd up voodoo

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I understand what you are saying and have similar inclinations. It’s just that I was surprised to find myself continually coming back to the flop when analyzing almost any street of any given hand. This tipped me off that my flop play is not all that great, or at the very least I often lack meaningful motive when making flop decisions. And isn't it odd that there isn't more focus on the "science" of flop play by players who are trying to improve their game? Flop decisions are second only to pre-flop as far as how frequently you have to make them.

As for the turn… I thought I had my turn play pretty well dialed in until I started looking at tough river decisions I was finding myself having to make. It seems to me that river decisions have the potential to be some of the toughest ones in general… In any case, for the time being I’m sticking to the flop.