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Old 12-03-2005, 05:03 PM
JEM7VSBL JEM7VSBL is offline
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Default QQ Overpair in CO, do I let this go?

villian's stats: 23/7.69/1.4, no useful reads

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Preflop: JEM is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">JEM 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, JEM calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">JEM raises</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">JEM bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, JEM calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, JEM calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

how's the line? would you call this down every time? specifically, on the turn, would any of you be inclined to 3-bet there, or is that just unadulterated spewing?
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:21 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: QQ Overpair in CO, do I let this go?

He has AA/KK 75%+ of the time here, but I still call down after the turn raise. I don't 3bet the turn without a read. If he shows you less than KK (or the unlikely other 2 Q's) then make a note and 3bet the turn next time.

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Old 12-03-2005, 05:34 PM
nomadtla nomadtla is offline
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Default Re: QQ Overpair in CO, do I let this go?

Jaran do you think SB could play AK [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] like this. Just a thought. We still lose to it just trying to factor in all posibilities.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ Overpair in CO, do I let this go?

Just call it down after the preflop cap. This way he'll continue to bet AK, and you'll lose the minimum against AA&amp;KK.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:42 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: QQ Overpair in CO, do I let this go?

I suppose it's possible, but at this level, you don't see too many turn c/r semi-bluffs. W/O a read, I tend to believe my opponents are pretty much straight forward, and really don't make too many really creative moves.

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Old 12-03-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: QQ Overpair in CO, do I let this go?

I need an extraordinarily strong hand to 3-bet a turn C/R. But I'm calling this down every time. You'll still catch a devoted JJ-TT often enough to do this.
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