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Old 09-27-2004, 01:37 PM
Moozh Moozh is offline
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Think about it. If your the CEO of party poker your job is to make the most money possible for your company. If new players come in and get destroyed right away. There not going to play anymore. However if they come in and triple there money and then slowly lose it back. They have been given a taste of winning and might come back to try it again after busting out. What is better for party poker to have 30000 online players and allow newer players to win or just to have 4000 to 5000 very skilled players.

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You do realize that when you 'slowly lose your money back', it most certainly does not go to the poker site. It goes to other players on the site. Party Poker makes money from rake. It doesn't matter to them if you win or lose as long as you're playing hands.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:51 PM
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Default Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?

Think about this. A little quick math. It's 11:40 AM and there are 3800+ tables running on Party right now.

Assuming they rake $0.50 per hand per table, and there's one hand played every minute, that's $1900 in raker PER MINUTE.

Party runs 24/7, so that's 1440 minutes per day, or $2,736,000 per day. That's just under ONE BILLION DOLLARS per year and I'm guessing my numbers are on the low side.

Why the hell would Party rig their site? If the word got out about the software being corrupt, they could instantly kiss their cool billion per year goodbye.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?

It's hard to admit you might be a losing player. It's easy to blame cheaters.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:14 PM
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You're right. Never would happen in a real casino.

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No, Casinos are rigged too. Yesterday, my first hand at the table, I get AA. AND I LOST!!
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:44 PM
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I don’t consider myself a shitty player except I have a problem laying down TPTK and often get beat by sets. I probably need to slow down and think it through a little better. I play good enough to keep the money which I initially won. However I find it hard to significantly improve my bankroll by bluffing at pots or limping in with T3 suited. I agree that starting two accounts and having the same thing happen twice is far from a stone cold fact, but I have heard this complaint from others. Only a fool would believe that these types of place would not cheat you because they put a statement on there web page that says their legit. Take a look at Enron, InClone and Tyco International who cheated there share holders and think again.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:54 PM
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Take a look at Enron, InClone and Tyco International who cheated there share holders and think again.

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Right. Ignore the thousands of publicly listed companies that don't cheat. Good point.

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I agree that starting two accounts and having the same thing happen twice is far from a stone cold fact, but I have heard this complaint from others.

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You should look up coincidence in a dictionary. The last two trips to work I just missed the subway as I walked through the turnstile. The MTA must be out to get me.

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I don’t consider myself a shitty player except I have a problem laying down TPTK and often get beat by sets.

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I am not a good player but I try to flop sets. bdk3clash is a good player and he flops quads. Do you see why you're losing?
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:57 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Re: Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?

Sorry casinos have been known to cheat. That is one of the reasons why have gaming commissions...

Saying, 'why would a casino cheat because if word got it they were crooked, they would lose all their customers', assumes that people running the casinos are 100% logical. Since casinos have been caught cheating before, this fact destroys the ASSUMPTION that casinos are 100% logical and therefore act in their best interest.

Human nature hasn't changed in a 1000 years. The same motivations which causes people to cheat are prevalent in our world today.

As I said before, I play on line and I believe most sites are honest BUT.... I keep my eyes open.

As for someone doing a PhD thesis on on-line poker sites to determine their honesty, I think this would be a facinating thesis. I hope there are some "clown" colleges who will pursue this. Since billions of dollars are spent on on-line gaming, I lot of people would love to read that thesis as oppose to most of the junk that PhDs publish...
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Old 09-27-2004, 03:03 PM
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To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Party's software is "tweaked". I've experienced the so-called cashout curse and the deposit boom and thought the same as you. It could also be the human brain is amazingly adept at finding patterns or themes where one doesn't actually exist. A series of coincidences can quickly be deduced as a pattern and then every future event is perceived to magically fits this pattern. Kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

But in the end, I say WHO CARES!!! Party is the home of the most poor online players, period! So even if this conspiracy theory is correct and Party is skimming a tenth of a BB/100 from my "true" win rate, the fact that I cannot make anywhere close to my Party winrate elsewhere makes it THE place to play.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Old 09-27-2004, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?

Dissertations aren't written for your amusement or for a wide readership. They are specialized and narrow for a reason.
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Old 09-27-2004, 03:50 PM
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Yes, you've been cheated. I mean it can't be that you suck, or are just plain stupid, can it? Maybe you should stick to checkers or monopoly, or are dirty bastards always cheating you at that too?
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