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Old 11-21-2005, 07:21 PM
AceHiStation AceHiStation is offline
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Default 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

Don't know too much about villain in this hand. But he seems like your average TAG. Stick it in on the turn? Stick it in on the river? Smoothcall river?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls $20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $20, MP3 calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($100) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($100) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $150</font>, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $350</font>, Hero calls $200.

River: ($800) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $500</font>, Hero ????
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

raise more on turn, call reraise. I like a river shove.
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

raise to 240 ish on turn. push river. he could have a missed limp re-raise AA or KK but ur ahead most of the time.
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

call river or fold turn
edit: oops I guess the question is whehter to shove or not. I think I like calling river here...it's unlikely a TAG is 3-betting a naked ace on turn...you're only hope is that he has AK.
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

Reraise his raise on the turn.
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

Since you say he is TAG, his 3-betting range is pretty narrow on the turn: Specifically, he probably needs Aces up or better.

AA/KK/33: These would coincide with the PF action (33 would depend on the table). Is he really not leading the flop with a set on an A high board, though?
AK: Seems possible.
A7, A3: Not if he's really TAG.
Ax: Seems possible... but the 3-bet on the turn makes these very unlikely.
A bluff: Given the action, I think this would be a decent spot to try one, on the turn, but he probably gives up on river.

His river bet sure looks a lot like a value bet.

If you push the river, the only hand he calls you with that you're ahead of is probably AK, and he may fold that.

If you think there's a chance that he gets to this point with worse than AK (a weird AQ?) , then you can push and make him think you're trying to move him off a chop, but this looks like a call, to me.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

If you're gonna call, might as well shove it, there is no hand that he is betting with like this that doesnt call a river push.
If you're not gonna push, dump it.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

seems like an easy push to me on river no?
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

there's nothing to put him on and you beat 3s full
push
if he cased you that sucks

edit.

on second thought, if there's a donk in close proximity to his left he may have been trying to LRR, hit top/2nd set and seen no reason to bet out decimated hands and is now valuebetting you to death

or he could have 33. A3? K3? unlikely.

is this foldable?
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot

Am I the only one who thinks this looks like aces and a missed limpreraise preflop from UTG?
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