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Old 11-11-2005, 02:39 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

UTG just sat a short while ago, maybe 15 hands. No read

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Button ($1323.75)
SB ($410.25)
BB ($894.75)
UTG ($1242)
MP ($586.25)
Hero ($4719.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, 1 fold</font>, Hero raises to $45</font>, Button calls $45, 2 folds</font>, UTG calls $35.

Flop: ($150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
UTG bets $140</font>, Hero raises to $4674.25 (All-In)</font>
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

i think a raise to 500 gets the job accomplished and avoids getting rocked by hands behind you.

edit: didn't see that they weren't as deep as you. it may be fine then...
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

You're a coin flip if he's got q10 and I don't think he'd fold that. And your about 1/3 if he's got a set. What hands could he be leading out for the pot on the flop when he limp/called your preflop raise? A flush/straight draw will fold, but that's really the only hand along with a kq that he'd fold. I think I like a call on flop better.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

standard.
looks good.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:45 PM
FeelGoodAboutHood FeelGoodAboutHood is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

Seems to me that the range of hands that he would limp UTG and then lead into the PF raiser is also well within the 'call curious overbets on drawy boards' range.

Of course, if you're looking for a call here, I like it alot, but I don't see how that's what you're looking for.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:47 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

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Of course, if you're looking for a call here, I like it alot, but I don't see how that's what you're looking for.

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I'm looking for a fold but don't hate a call. Bacically I'm looking to make a +EV play.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:48 PM
psuasskicker psuasskicker is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

Why exactly do you want to push out everyone who doesn't have you beat with that strong a hand?

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Edit: Not with that strong a hand...how 'bout "with that much equity in the hand"...
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:49 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

btw, I immidiately moved in. I mean, faster than fast...if that matters.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

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Why exactly do you want to push out everyone who doesn't have you beat with that strong a hand?

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I'm behind to AQ,KQ,KK, all hands I should be able to fold out. AA/AsKs I MAY be able to fold out as well.

66 and Q10 likely call but it's not that bad if they do.

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Edit: Not with that strong a hand...how 'bout "with that much equity in the hand"...

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What exactly do you mean by this? I have trouble with this concept. Doesn't my $ equity in the hand go way up by moving in?
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:23 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff

The equity in the hand is the % of the time that you will wind the hand times the size of the pot. So by moving in, you may increase your equity if you knock people out. But if everyone calls, then your equity % stays the same but the pot is bigger.
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