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Old 08-30-2005, 01:36 PM
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Default Making Moves in Level 3

Standard formula: play super tight until Level 4. Standard result? Getting into Level 4 6or7xBB.

What about making occasional moves in Level 3? You have t75 in blinds to grab now, and at the $11 level it seems like lots of people STILL limp in. Here's an example of a move I have started making recently that seems to be working pretty well.

Table Table 35306 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Lucra (410)
Seat 2: WmRTheRake (405)
Seat 3: uclabruinz (680)
Seat 4: LordNuts (560)
Seat 5: bigjim7 (380)
Seat 6: bombsquad3 (1000)
Seat 7: chad2c00l (1310)
Seat 8: acesYoel (715)
Seat 9: martypowers6 (695)
Seat 10: ihave21 (1845)
LordNuts posts small blind (25)
bigjim7 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to uclabruinz [ Qc, Ac ]
bombsquad3 calls (50)
2 folds.
martypowers6 calls (50)
3 folds.
uclabruinz raises (680) to 680
uclabruinz is all-In.
LordNuts folds.
bigjim7 folds.
bombsquad3 folds.
martypowers6 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $855 with uclabruinz

Thoughts?
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

Is it necessary to throw your whole stack in here?
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

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Is it necessary to throw your whole stack in here?

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Yeah, I think it is. I don't want to bump it to 200, be left with 480, and have to deal with a limper calling and playing a flop that is going to miss me 2/3 of the time. I'd rather stick it all in there knowing I'm almost always ahead unless one of the limpers calls with a 22-JJ.

Am I off here?
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

I do this all the time. There is 175 chips in the middle and you have a stack of 680. And if called AQ isn't too shabby.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

standard.
now do this with any two and we are talking MOVE. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

With your stack, I do this here instantly, every time.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:46 PM
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standard.
now do this with any two and we are talking MOVE. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I can't bring myself to make those kind of MOVES at the $11s where it's so likely I'll get called. I look forward to making them when I eventually move up though. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

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Am I off here?

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Generally speaking, no - IMO. When a standard raise, in suspect position, leaves you <10BB's...pushing can be the right thing to do.

The number of players behind you, relative stack sizes (of the limpers, and those behind you), reads, etc. can certainly make the standard raise an equally effective, and perhaps better option.

Your position alone here, might have made the standard raise a little more appropriate - but I don't hate the push.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Making Moves in Level 3

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Is it necessary to throw your whole stack in here?

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Yeah, I think it is. I don't want to bump it to 200, be left with 480, and have to deal with a limper calling and playing a flop that is going to miss me 2/3 of the time. I'd rather stick it all in there knowing I'm almost always ahead unless one of the limpers calls with a 22-JJ.

Am I off here?

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I understand your point, but I think this is a move that may lose its appeal after you get busted out with it several times.

It's great if you could be guaranteed that only donks with w/ Ax would call. But I'll bet you might get called alot at that level with pocket pairs and then be in a coinflip situation, which is something I would like to avoid early on. I would rather try and play poker...which I still need work on [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I just know when I have gotten my $ in on a coinflip early on when I didn't have to, I've often regretted it and asked myself why was I so impatient?
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:49 PM
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standard.
now do this with any two and we are talking MOVE. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I can't bring myself to make those kind of MOVES at the $11s where it's so likely I'll get called. I look forward to making them when I eventually move up though. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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lol, with any two I am not making them either (at the 22s), except against compulsary limpers [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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