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Old 12-19-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

I don't remember seeing anything about pushing 100BB with AK against a 4BB raise. A healthy reraise to 12BB is probably in order, though.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

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I don't remember seeing anything about pushing 100BB with AK against a 4BB raise. A healthy reraise to 12BB is probably in order, though.

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Why would you choose 12BB here? Doesn't a reraise to 12BB price in pocket pairs to try to hit a set?

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Old 12-19-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

Not unless you're planning on losing your stack every time you hit an A or K. Remember, they'll hit the flop a lot less than you'll hit, so you don't even need to hit your AK to get a fold most of the time.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

When they fold or push, it's pretty clear. But when they call, it isn't so clear to me. I guess my question is really what hands do they raise 4BB UTG with that they do not call the 12BB reraise with?

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Old 12-19-2005, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

You're not expecting a fold immediately, you're either 1) getting money in against a hand that you dominate or 2) building fold equity against a pocket pair hand by representing a higher pair.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

OK, what flops and betting action do you love/hate after your 12BB reraise gets called?

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Old 12-19-2005, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

Obviously any A/K flop helps. Flops like Qxx or Jxx are good. What you DONT want to see is a flop like 7 2 3, where a small pocket pair will likely play back at you.

As far as action goes -- I'm usually shutting down if any bet gets called.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

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I don't remember seeing anything about pushing 100BB with AK against a 4BB raise. A healthy reraise to 12BB is probably in order, though.

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Why would you choose 12BB here? Doesn't a reraise to 12BB price in pocket pairs to try to hit a set?

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Not if you don't get stacked every time with top. You give people implied odds by playing poorly postflop.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

After this size reraise, the pot is large enough that if you hit an A or a K and play it reasonably (i.e. bet 2/3 pot on the flop and get called), you'll wind up with a roughly stack-sized pot no matter what you do and your opponent is almost forced to play the pot the same way with pretty much any decent holding (including a set or decent draw). For my reasoning, see my post above.

If you're going to hit an A/K on the flop and just fold to anyone who calls your flop bet, why even bother playing the hand at all?

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