Value bet this river? - Page 2

AlexM · #11 10-18-2004, 04:46 PM

If the player is as much of an overbluffer as you say, check/calling to induce another bluff is definitely the right play. OTOH, if there's a good chance that getting double check/raised will scare him into checking behind you, you should probably bet out.

Also... you should have capped preflop.

1800GAMBLER · #12 10-19-2004, 04:18 AM

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The button was a big Laggy, but I really didn't see him capping without a real hand. He was 3beting a bit, but not capping, so I had to give him some credit. This might be weak-tight thinking on my part.

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??? he only 3 bet preflop? LAGs don't usually slowdown postflop if you cap with overpairs, infact no one on party does.

Nightwish · #13 10-19-2004, 05:51 PM

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Not capping preflop sucks.

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The button was a big Laggy, but I really didn't see him capping without a real hand. He was 3beting a bit, but not capping, so I had to give him some credit. This might be weak-tight thinking on my part.

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I'm assuming you meant to say that you were giving him some credit cause he's been raising quite a bit but not necessarily 3-betting? If so, I totally disagree. You have the third best hand in hold'em. I don't care if he's a LAG, a TAG, or your grandpa, you need to cap with that hand.

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But lately against the really bad I've been not capping preflop with premium pairs, and then jamming with them postflop as long as the board isn't really scary. I think that when I don't cap preflop they give me less credit for a real hand, and are more likely to go several bets with much inferior hands.

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In this situation, you give up 1 BB preflop by not capping. You better be sure you can make up for it postflop.

Nightwish · #14 10-19-2004, 05:52 PM

Cap preflop, check-call turn and river.

SoBeDude · #15 10-19-2004, 08:52 PM

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Cap preflop, check-call turn and river.

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Not getting in a raise on the turn can't be the right play.

-Scott

Nightwish · #16 10-20-2004, 03:08 AM

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Cap preflop, check-call turn and river.

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Not getting in a raise on the turn can't be the right play.

-Scott

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Sure it can, if the CO is willing to bluff the turn and river but would otherwise fold to your check-raise.

phy1234 · #17 10-20-2004, 04:22 AM

If CO 3 bets you on the turn do you call down or muck?