PP $22 - Flop TPnoK with 2nd Nut Flush Draw from the BB

[playtitleist]

How's my line? I am getting conflicting opinions, which I find interesting. Maybe $22 and "interesting" are oxymoronic.

My thoughts -
- Good flop for me, but not great.
- My deuce is useless playing the pair.
- Pot is 15% of my stack already, so happy to take the "gift horse" right now. So, I want to bet large enough to get some folds.
- Need to bet large enough to define my hand, but small enough to get away from it if raised.
- Bet a big enough amount such that any raise means I'm likely behind
- I will fold if raised
- If called, I will check/fold any non-spade, non-King turn (unless villain gives odds)

(Irie hates this post, cuz it's all about MY hand) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


***** Hand History for Game 2859601665 *****
30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16501664) - Tue Oct
11 02:24:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 67352 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: clubcliq2 (835)
Seat 2: fredexley (730)
Seat 3: gypsycowboy (813)
Seat 4: playtitleist (760)
Seat 5: ridegooses (1010)
Seat 6: PP_Railbird (770)
Seat 8: Hownow (785)
Seat 9: aaahhchew (1342)
Seat 10: SNT51 (955)
gypsycowboy posts small blind (15)
playtitleist posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ 2s, Ks ]
ridegooses calls (30)
PP_Railbird folds.
Hownow calls (30)
aaahhchew folds.
SNT51 folds.
clubcliq2 folds.
fredexley folds.
gypsycowboy calls (15)
playtitleist checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9s, 5s, Kd ]
gypsycowboy checks.
playtitleist bets (70)

edit - Changed my use of the word "interesting".

[pineapple888]

Completely standard, in my book. This isn't the final table of the WSOP. You made a value bet on the flop in the 22s. Why would you do anything else here?

Maybe I'd bet 80 or 90 instead, who knows, but that's about the only argument I see.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

I like your line. However, there is no clear fold if raised. You need to make your decision based on pot odds vs your outs. I see 14 outs, 2.36:1 so if pot is offering better than that... call, worse then you fold, but don't lose your game to this hand. Hopefully no one has Ax spades...

[IdiotVig]

[ QUOTE ]
I like your line. However, there is no clear fold if raised. You need to make your decision based on pot odds vs your outs. I see 14 outs, 2.36:1 so if pot is offering better than that... call. Hopefully no one has Ax spades...

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14 outs versus what? AA? Bottom two pair? You've got 12 against any better king, and 9 against any Kx two pair/set, less redraws.

This is still a strong hand, given this flop. How much do y'all like to lead out for on a flop like this? Half-pot seems about right, I suppose.