109 - Puking with AK

WebGuySteve · #1 09-14-2005, 02:21 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 (t1045)
MP3 (t820)
CO (t1225)
Hero (t1030)
SB (t645)
BB (t1537)
UTG (t1120)
UTG+1 (t870)
MP1 (t1708)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t60, UTG+1 calls t60, 4 folds, Hero calls t60, 1 fold, BB calls t30.

Flop: (t255) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t95, UTG+1 calls t95, Hero raises to t290, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to t700, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1340

I have seen Ice_Cr3am a lot, and I think she at least knows what she's doing, probably a winning player. Also, this reraise by her left her with 170 chips behind.

Shilly · #2 09-14-2005, 02:23 PM

I think you're seeing 88 a lot of the time here, and if she was able to put a move on you with AQ (or worse, for that matter) so be it.

Brad22 · #3 09-14-2005, 02:27 PM

The raise was only 2BB, so a whole variety of hands could have been in there. 88 is quite likely. AK or AQ is a possibility too. If the player you are speaking of is that good, and knows how you will play that sort of hand, it would force you to think that you are behind. Pay attention in the future to see how that player plays sets. Tough fold.

1C5 · #4 09-14-2005, 02:26 PM

ohhh

good chance trips are there.

I wonder how many other 109ers lay this down here?

Ogre · #5 09-14-2005, 05:28 PM

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ohhh

good chance trips are there.

I wonder how many other 109ers lay this down here?

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i sure do

#6 09-14-2005, 02:28 PM

If you only "think" she knows what she's doing and she's "probably" a winning player I call. If you are sure of the above things though then she probably has AA, KK, AK, 88 or maybe 55 and folding is good.

raptor517 · #7 09-14-2005, 02:32 PM

fold. there is about a 5% chance you are ahead. IF that. easy fold. holla

lacky · #8 09-14-2005, 03:56 PM

hmm, cant agree with 95%. I good player just called a min raise in utg+1 with AA 95% of the time, or limped behind a raise in early position with 55? The only hands that make sense here are 88, AK, AQs and maybe AJs depending on the player. No way does she have 88 95% of the time. Still a fold, but it's closer than you are implying.

Steve

WebGuySteve · #9 09-14-2005, 04:28 PM

To be fair, my read that she's a good player is not certain, and only based on the fact that I see her a lot, and I haven't noted anything particularily donkish about her. Most of the truly aweful players come and go very quickly, or get noted. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think you'll see 55 here a lot, and I also think it's very reasonable to call an UTG min raise with 55, in fact, I would love to have 55 in that spot.

I think AK is possible, but AQ and AJ are almost definitely not possible. Her reraise left her with 170 chips. Unless she's a REALLY good player, she won't do this with a margainal holding.

I also think there's a small chance AA is there, only because superdonks like to limp/call/play AA passively.

Also, I think that there's a small chance of A8 or A5, but, if that were the case, she most certainly is not a winning player.

#10 09-14-2005, 02:36 PM

Fold. Incidentally, do you play a set here like villain did (I assume)? If I were villain and I knew hero's hand, I'dve raised the original bet because this gives hero a much tougher decision and may give me a clear double up. Is this play still correct if we give UTG and hero a reasonable range of hands?