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Old 12-24-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Curtains hand 1: boring pre-flop question

Well, it's not just the number of chips, it's the players. I don't think it's a good raise in an $11 and I think it's pretty bad in a $6.
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Old 12-24-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Curtains hand 1: boring pre-flop question

Well, yeah you do have to consider who is left to act. I wouldn't play it if I thought the players were prone to coming over the top of me putting me to a decision. But against passive players I'd come in. And as for the lower buy ins I agree they will certainly call with a wide range but thats what makes it a good raise. They will call with inferior holdings and probably raise with better ones. But usually those who play at lower limits don't have the post flop experience so they would be better off folding I guess.
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Old 12-24-2005, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Curtains hand 1: boring pre-flop question

I think you can raise profitably in a $6, but it's one of those waiting for a better spot things I think.

To go to the extreme, I KNOW it's a fold in the play money games. Take the fact that 3 people call your allin with QQ+ and the fact that you absolutely can fold into the money and you can pass up a lot of profitable plays.

In the $109s it is frustrating how rarely people are paying off my big hands, so I can't afford to miss a few chips here and there.
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Old 12-24-2005, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Curtains hand 1: boring pre-flop question

Dunno, in the $22's and $33's I used to bring in suited broadways for a raise in LP but caught a good deal of reraises out of the blinds. Plenty of players at those levels assume a low/mid pair or ATo is a premium holding even in a raised pot, and are inclined to take a shot at you since they're putting you on a looser range near the button.

Maybe I'm just a pansy ass but I routinely open fold these hands now, or just limp behind with position. Being a positional LAG makes me a lot of cash in NL ring, but I'm not sure it's the image you want in an 800 chip tourney on Party.

Anyone want to draw a line where these raises become more effective - $50's, $100's? Player dependent of course.
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