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#32
03-20-2005, 12:25 AM
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Re: Results
I've played almost 34k hands (all 7-tabling) of 100nl on Party since they changed the blind structure. Against a random opponent, calling this raise has (undoubtedly, imo) a negative expectation. If he represents big hands more often than he's likely to be holding them or if he's shown a willingness to get aggressive against you specifically, sure, call and let him bluff away his chips. But against a typical opponent in these games he's telling you he has a full house or some other hand that has you drawing very slim.
There are *very* few players who even think of TRYING to successfully run over a player or a table, let alone players who do it intelligently by aping the 'standard line' of a random opponent holding the hand they're trying to represent (they don't play enough hands, by and large, to even know what the standard line from a random idiot IS). I fold the turn without glaring evidence that my opponent isn't straightforward. 
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#34
03-20-2005, 12:46 AM
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Re: Big stacks put wayfare to the test
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No chance of folding preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Since it's suited, only a minraise, and on the button, I'd normally say it's ok to call, since it's not like we're gonna go broke with it if we flop a pair. Umm. [/ QUOTE ] Right, and the reason I'd fold this is because when you hit the K you're likely behind to a person raising you. If you give it up easily on a flop with a K then I guess it's no trouble, but apparently it is in this case. [/ QUOTE ] Your preflop standards are really tight. Obviously hero should ditch it if he cannot get away from a hand like TP. You don't call with K10s to get a K-high flop.
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#35
03-20-2005, 04:02 AM
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Re: Results
Catagorically disagree. If you are 7-tabling, obviously you cannot put the time and attention into the decisions you make on the river after calling this turn.
If you think you are less than 1-5 to have the best hand going into showdown you are delusional. Excuse me if i am rude, I am blackout drunk.
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#36
03-20-2005, 02:30 PM
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Re: Big stacks put wayfare to the test
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No chance of folding preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Since it's suited, only a minraise, and on the button, I'd normally say it's ok to call, since it's not like we're gonna go broke with it if we flop a pair. Umm. [/ QUOTE ] Right, and the reason I'd fold this is because when you hit the K you're likely behind to a person raising you. If you give it up easily on a flop with a K then I guess it's no trouble, but apparently it is in this case. [/ QUOTE ] Your preflop standards are really tight. Obviously hero should ditch it if he cannot get away from a hand like TP. You don't call with K10s to get a K-high flop. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I am tight. I don't call raises or play hands like QT, QJ, QK, KJ, KT, etc. They suck. & That was my point. Obviously he has trouble getting away from them. This time he had the best hand, but I don't see this situation occurring too often.
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#37
03-20-2005, 02:50 PM
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Re: Big stacks put wayfare to the test
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No chance of folding preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Since it's suited, only a minraise, and on the button, I'd normally say it's ok to call, since it's not like we're gonna go broke with it if we flop a pair. Umm. [/ QUOTE ] Right, and the reason I'd fold this is because when you hit the K you're likely behind to a person raising you. If you give it up easily on a flop with a K then I guess it's no trouble, but apparently it is in this case. [/ QUOTE ] Your preflop standards are really tight. Obviously hero should ditch it if he cannot get away from a hand like TP. You don't call with K10s to get a K-high flop. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I am tight. I don't call raises or play hands like QT, QJ, QK, KJ, KT, etc. They suck. & That was my point. Obviously he has trouble getting away from them. This time he had the best hand, but I don't see this situation occurring too often. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously I do not have trouble getting away from them. I made the calculation that I had the best hand at the time enough of the time to warrant for a call, and made that call. Your preflop standards are too tight, and it may result from a lesser ability to play postflop. I myself am a tightie, but the recent fad of pseudo bragging about tight people are is really silly and massively -EV. If you never play KQ, even from the button, you are leaving giant amounts of money on the table.
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