25/50 hand

[Justin A]

Hustler 25/50, the game is great right now, although it's been off and on for the last couple hours. I'm UTG with red deuces. A limp is correct at this point mostly because of the loose passive lady to my left who limps with roughly 2/3 of her hands. As I'm putting out my chips, I look left and notice her folding. Oops, gotta remember to look left sooner.

CO is a youngish asian lady who is very loose, not passive but not very aggressive either, and fairly predictable postflop. I feel like I have a decent read on her.

Anyways, folded to CO who raises, tight SB calls, BB folds, I call. 3 to the flop for 7 SB.

Flop is T97 rainbow. Check, I bet, CO raises, SB folds, I call.

Turn is a 4. Check check.

River is a 6. I check.

Thoughts?

[anatta]

She looks like ace high to me. I like a bet here. She can put you on a lot of overcards hands that flopped str8 draws (KQ, KJ, QJ) for your flop bet and she will probably call, but she should happily check her ace.

[GreywolfNYC]

I absolutely hate the pre-flop limp with this hand but since you're in this far you have to bet the river.

[surfdoc]

I am over being the nit who always says fold preflop so instead I offer the following story. Mike and I were at Hawaiian Gardens on friday and he was playing in a super loose passive game. We were going to take a break and I walk by his table as he plays his last hand from UTG before taking his big blind. He lets me sweat him and picks up the first card that shows a duece. He waits for the second card and without looking at it spins the both of them face down in the muck and we go outside for some fresh air.

[LearnedfromTV]

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I am over being the nit who always says fold preflop so instead I offer the following story. Mike and I were at Hawaiian Gardens on friday and he was playing in a super loose passive game. We were going to take a break and I walk by his table as he plays his last hand from UTG before taking his big blind. He lets me sweat him and picks up the first card that shows a duece. He waits for the second card and without looking at it spins the both of them face down in the muck and we go outside for some fresh air.

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I did this once, with a 4, UTG+1 I think, during my uber-tight I've read the book with the charts and know everything faze. 6/12 game. Made a joke about it to the dealer, who I was friendly with. "Only need to see one," and folded. She snuck a peak at my hand.

Flop was xx4 and she smirked a little. Turn x, river 4.

Turns out I folded quads.

This hand led me to the still ubertight I've read the book with the charts but now I see the flop with any pair faze.

[elindauer]

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I am over being the nit who always says fold preflop so instead I offer the following story. Mike and I were at Hawaiian Gardens on friday and he was playing in a super loose passive game. We were going to take a break and I walk by his table as he plays his last hand from UTG before taking his big blind. He lets me sweat him and picks up the first card that shows a duece. He waits for the second card and without looking at it spins the both of them face down in the muck and we go outside for some fresh air.

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I did this once, with a 4, UTG+1 I think, during my uber-tight I've read the book with the charts and know everything faze. 6/12 game. Made a joke about it to the dealer, who I was friendly with. "Only need to see one," and folded. She snuck a peak at my hand.

Flop was xx4 and she smirked a little. Turn x, river 4.

Turns out I folded quads.

This hand led me to the still ubertight I've read the book with the charts but now I see the flop with any pair faze.

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Information about what you are folding is MUCH harder to get than information about what you're playing. Don't give it away so easily. Always wait for the 2nd card.

-eric

ps. folding quads led you to alwayd pocket pairs? make sure you look away any time you fold 72.

[LearnedfromTV]

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I am over being the nit who always says fold preflop so instead I offer the following story. Mike and I were at Hawaiian Gardens on friday and he was playing in a super loose passive game. We were going to take a break and I walk by his table as he plays his last hand from UTG before taking his big blind. He lets me sweat him and picks up the first card that shows a duece. He waits for the second card and without looking at it spins the both of them face down in the muck and we go outside for some fresh air.

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I did this once, with a 4, UTG+1 I think, during my uber-tight I've read the book with the charts and know everything faze. 6/12 game. Made a joke about it to the dealer, who I was friendly with. "Only need to see one," and folded. She snuck a peak at my hand.

Flop was xx4 and she smirked a little. Turn x, river 4.

Turns out I folded quads.

This hand led me to the still ubertight I've read the book with the charts but now I see the flop with any pair faze.

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Information about what you are folding is MUCH harder to get than information about what you're playing. Don't give it away so easily. Always wait for the 2nd card.

-eric

ps. folding quads led you to alwayd pocket pairs? make sure you look away any time you fold 72.


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Sort of joking... I did really go through a faze where I overvalued setflopping, although at loose low limit live games it's not the worse vice. I'll go back to lurking; not much I can contribute to this forum beyond attempted amusement. When I play limit I'm just a 10/20 guy - might as well take the chance to commend you all on a good forum though. I learn a lot here.

[andyfox]

The correct method is to not wait for the second card. Simply move the deuce forward to indicate a fold before the second card even arrives.

Unfortunately, this will likely be my 2+2 legacy.

[Josh W]

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Unfortunately, this will likely be my 2+2 legacy.

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I have four words for you sir:

Your Legacy will be Crazy Fox.

Josh

[Josh W]

Easy bet. Sounds like your opponent is Jade, and she may or may not call, but she likely doesn't have a better hand.

If you plan on playing in that game much, next time you guys are there (if i'm there), I'll give you the lodown on the regulars (they are ALL regulars).

Josh