Questionable turn play with QJ

DeadManJay · #1 02-28-2005, 05:47 PM

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

I consider my bet on the flop pretty standard.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls.

I put UTG on Kx on the flop and wasn't sure about the BB, I was pretty sure it would get checked to UTG and I could raise to force BB into folding 2 cold. I was surprised to have it 3-bet back to me after the check-raise, but I capped thinking that AQ, KK, or KQ would have been raised PF

What do you guys think of the turn play and what should my action be on the river?

Losfer · #2 02-28-2005, 05:50 PM

I like your line. I would bet out the turn. The only hand I see beating you is 55, and if he's got a weaker Q it's time to get paid.

DeadManJay · #3 02-28-2005, 05:53 PM

My reason for the check-raise was that if the BB was on a straight draw I would be giving him 6:1 to call rather than trying for the check-raise and giving him 3.5:1 when he needed 5:1 to call.

Losfer · #4 02-28-2005, 05:54 PM

I'm sorry, I meant bet out the river. Words are hard.

davelin · #5 02-28-2005, 05:55 PM

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My reason for the check-raise was that if the BB was on a straight draw I would be giving him 6:1 to call rather than trying for the check-raise and giving him 3.5:1 when he needed 5:1 to call.

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That's a pretty narrow range to put BB on.

parappa · #6 02-28-2005, 05:57 PM

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Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

I consider my bet on the flop pretty standard.

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Can you expand? I usually check this. If someone's got a K I count 6ish outs, and I'd get 5 or 6: 1, which seems a bit thin. What am I missing?

Gambler · #7 02-28-2005, 05:59 PM

Its 3 handed, your QJ could be the best hand. Bet out.

DeadManJay · #8 02-28-2005, 06:00 PM

I was facing 3 opponents none of which raised preflop, one played for free. I feel like my hand could be the best hand here. I just had a friend say that he might try a c/r on the flop if he planned on staying in, what do you guys think of that line?

Nick Royale · #9 02-28-2005, 06:00 PM

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That's a pretty narrow range to put BB on.

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Agree. And the pot is pretty small. I would like getting along both players to the river.

Buckmulligan · #10 02-28-2005, 06:00 PM

Given that I don't like your cap, I would have bet out on the turn and called his raise and chen check called the river.