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Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
Commerce over the weekend.
UTG (2k) semi-unkown opens for $80. I ($4000) call UTG +1 w Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Agressive, semi-good regular ($2400) calls in SB. Flop comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] SB leads out for $150. UTG calls. I fold. Bet/Call. Bet/Call. SB has TT, UTG has 99. Anyone raise that flop. I don't think I can just overcall there, can I? |
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
sure is a tough spot
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
I reraise PF there 9 out of 10 times. Only dont if the player behind is willing too. Also. I think I reraise the flop two. ALthough if A K clubs is out htere a push is coming. Either way. I dont hate your fold postflop, but i hate the preflop cold call.....
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
I tend to give an unknown non-moron UTG raiser a little bit of credit - I'm not really liking "isolating" w QQ and 7 players left to act anyway.
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
Tough one!
I might raise the flop to find out where I am at, but if called or raised, ouch, even tougher place. I think I make the fold, then kick myself for not having a better read. I agree it is smart to give an unknown and a "semi-good" player credit. An UTG raise is strong more times than not from someone new to the table, and a "semi-good" player flat calling out of position needs some respect too. The way it played out it could very well have been AA vs KK and not two middle pairs. |
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
i overcall in this spot sometimes and see the turn action.
I think i like raising a little better though. this becomes alot easier live, but those are my lines online. |
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
When I folded I was, of course, thinking about the turn and river - which were both brick unders BTW - I think the river paired the bottom card or something. So, I'm overcalling on 3 streets? I guess they could both slow down on the turn, but am I betting there if checked to? I folded to avoid making these decisions, though I guess the betting would have been different had I called on the flop.
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
I would almost never make that fold in a live game.
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
It was, of course, the fact that SB bet out that lead me to fold. I thought he was capable of doing that with a set, or a huge draw - looking to get it all in. Sort of a "he knows UTG raiser must be strong" and will raise with 1 big pair move. I was wrong.
Had UTG been checked to and bet, I would naturally call. |
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Re: Commerce 10/20 - Unexciting Fold
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I would almost never make that fold in a live game. [/ QUOTE ] |
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