Bottom Pair No Good?

***** Hand History for Game 2984898819 *****
50/100 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17155653) - Sat Nov 05 10:34:05 EST 2005
Table Table 66956 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: manc496 (1765)
Seat 2: jimmyt199 (900)
Seat 3: eztargetone (910)
BTN: Greek81 (1295)
SB: jjfehr (1060)
BB: HERO (725)
Seat 7: phildeeez50 (740)
Seat 10: doomster56 (605)
jjfehr posts small blind (25)
HERO posts big blind (50)

Dealt to HERO [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
phildeeez50 folds.
doomster56 calls (50)
manc496 calls (50)
jimmyt199 calls (50)
eztargetone calls (50)
Greek81 folds.
jjfehr calls (25)
HERO checks.

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
jjfehr checks.
HERO checks.
doomster56 checks.
manc496 checks.
jimmyt199 checks.
eztargetone checks.

** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] Main Pot: 250
jjfehr checks.
HERO checks.
doomster56 checks.
manc496 checks.
jimmyt199 bets (850) and is all-In.
eztargetone folds.
jjfehr folds.
HERO???

I won't even consider calling.

[SonnyJay]

Um...unless I'm missing something here or this is an inside joke I'm not in on, you can fold this.

I did fold, but what do you put him on? He limped behind a bunch of others, so probably not a big pair, and he didn't bet a rag flop checked to him, so probably not top pair or a pair bigger than 8's. You think he has 33-77 more often than a pure steal? It's been checked to him twice now, so he probably thinks the board didn't hit anybody.

[SonnyJay]

It doesn't really matter. He could've had an 8 he wasn't willing to bet on the flop, or a 4, or a pocket pair, whatever. It's simply not worth going broke here.

Likely being ahead and correctly calling are not one and the same. You may be ahead of him here, but it's simply an unnecessary risk. You still have more than 13 BB and you're facing a bet that will cost you all of it. There will definitely be better spots later.

-SonnyJay

[RobGW]

Fold. The only thing you can beat is a bluff and even then you may lose on the river. You aren't even close to getting the correct odds to snap off a bluff here. You aren't desperate. There is just no reason for this.