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Old 03-11-2005, 01:43 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default a 500x the BB hand at $1/$2 NL

If this is the wrong forum, flame me and I will go away. I understand the $$$ divisions, but I have heard say a number of times that truly deep stacked questions go to this forum. I apologize if this is incorrect.


$1/$2 NL, $100 Max. Hero is sitting with $550, Villian has $500, and Villian #2 has $150.

Hero is in BB with 7 of Hearts and 7 of Diamonds, Villian is in LP, Villian #2 is in EP.

Villian #2 opens for $20 (lol, this was almost a standard raise), Villian calls, Hero calls.

Villian was playing almost every hand, and putting massive flop bets on top pair no kicker. He was a delight to have at the table.

Flop comes K J 7 of clubs.

Hero checks (because villian is almost certainly going to call the preflop raises bet, and then hero can check raise big. There is almost no chance villian has an over set, and if villian #2 does that's poker).

Villian #2 checks and so does Villian.

Turn comes an ace. Here, I'm not quite sure what happens, although I am sure than I am in the big blind. I don't clearly remember checking, and I don't remember Villian #2 checking either, but Villian open pushes. Yes, that's right, for $450, he pushes into the $60 pot.

What is your move?
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: a 500x the BB hand at $1/$2 NL

This is a 250*BB hand.
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:51 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: a 500x the BB hand at $1/$2 NL

Right you are. My mistake. It was $100 max, which I guess is why I thought it was 500 x the BB (as I am used to 100x the BB structures).
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: a 500x the BB hand at $1/$2 NL

I'd definitely insta call this, (I assume the ace was not a club). If villain is a total lag as you say, hes definitely betting the flop with a hand better than yours. he wouldn't check behind with a flush i dont think on the flop, so i dont think theres much you're behind to here.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: a 500x the BB hand at $1/$2 NL

The ace was off suit.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: a 500x the BB hand at $1/$2 NL

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The ace was off suit.

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then what are you thinking about?
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:00 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Even More Information

I copy and pasted this from the small stakes forum. The K and J are spades, the 7 is a club. I guess this makes it an easier call?

He is putting 200x the BB into a 30x the BB pot.

Sorry this is so confusing, but I had used the Spade Icon For the K and the J and it didn't copy over. So, just to clarify, the flop is
K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

It is NOT a monotone flop.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Even More Information

This is not really a "deep stack" hand because you don't even play past the flop. You aren't even that deep!

Fold, and move on.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:59 PM
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The money went in on the turn.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:08 PM
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I sit corrected.

However the question of "should I call a massive overbet" is so player dependent that I don't think people can give you more than a seat-of-the-pants yes or no. The pot is small, and his bet is big. You have far more information than any of us as to whether this is a profitable play.

I just don't see what you are asking. There is so little action it's not like we are deducing his hand...
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