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Re: Curtains: folding JJ after a call+raise
If the intial raiser was citanul, I push secure in the knowledge that he'd fold AA knowing I would outplay him postflop.
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Re: Curtains: folding JJ after a call+raise
There are obviously players in the 215s where doing anything but folding here is just very bad. By this I mean there is absolutely zero chance they are raising with something like AJs, or even 99 or AQo. I don't recall knowing the player during this hand, but this type of raise from EP after a limper really bothers me. In general you should give more respect to raises after a limper, also the guy is in early position, also they have made a standard raise which committs a large % of their stack. I find that in general, getting involved in situations like this is not +EV. Anyway JJ is my cutoff, Im moving allin with QQ against almost anyone. I might fold to one of these guys who always moves allin with AK-JJ but makes normal raises with the big hands and play super tight and fold everything else. There are a few guys who do this predominantly. For instance if ComeOnPhish was the raiser, there is close to a 0% chance they have AK. Meanwhile ComeonPhish would almost never raise like this with something like 88-99 I believe. There are other regulars for whom this is true. |
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Re: Curtains: folding JJ after a call+raise
In summary, Ive very happy with my decision to fold hands like this against certain normal seeming opponents. Im going to need some serious convincing/math to prove me wrong. |
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Re: Curtains: folding JJ after a call+raise
When I first saw the hand, I thought that the fold was interesting. I'm not claiming that I would have made the same play, but for the reasons you gave, I had a notion why you did it.
(It probably also helps that my style of play is similar to that which you describe. With that guy's stack size, the only hands (after a limper) that I'm raising less than all-in are AA, KK, QQ.) Curtains, if the raiser had the same amount of chips as you, you would have called and seen a flop, correct? At least that was my thoughts on this... |
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Re: Curtains: folding JJ after a call+raise
Hey 45!! post some more hands Im bored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If the guy had 2200 chips yeah Id gamble for sure, but Id be very careful if I flopped an overpair. Meaning I would not allow myself to go broke against AA-QQ and play in a manner to make sure of this without risking too many chips. |
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