Top set--No bet

ajmargarine · #1 12-23-2005, 03:02 PM

I like the maxim: 'no set, no bet' when it comes to smallish pp's. Here, I must've got confused and thought it was 'top set, no bet'. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

No reads. The plan was for it to check to the PFR, and then I would c/r big (good?). When MP1 bet, I lost my nerve for the c/r. Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed)

Button ($175.10)
SB ($111.70)
BB ($169)
Hero ($100)
UTG+1 ($134.30)
MP1 ($130)
MP2 ($106.70)
CO ($100.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, MP1 calls $4.

Flop: ($16.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $15, Button calls $15, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($61.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

River: ($61.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $61.50

beavens · #2 12-23-2005, 03:16 PM

didnt feel like raising the flop to see if they flopped the flush?

#3 12-23-2005, 03:35 PM

4 diamonds out there is nasty, but I don't know why they would check through on the turn and river...

ajmargarine · #4 12-23-2005, 03:40 PM

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didnt feel like raising the flop to see if they flopped the flush?

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No, I would prefer to boat up and take it from there. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] So you would c/r in this spot? How much would you make it to go?

#5 12-23-2005, 03:46 PM

How come nobody is advocating leading this flop? If he flopped flush, lucky him-- i will make quads or a boat by the river anyway. I am leading this flop and three betting all in if raised.

I don't like the check raise. What if he just calls?

beavens · #6 12-23-2005, 03:49 PM

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didnt feel like raising the flop to see if they flopped the flush?

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No, I would prefer to boat up and take it from there. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] So you would c/r in this spot? How much would you make it to go?

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i would be leading this flop for PSB, not c-r'ing.

#7 12-23-2005, 03:55 PM

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didnt feel like raising the flop to see if they flopped the flush?

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No, I would prefer to boat up and take it from there. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] So you would c/r in this spot? How much would you make it to go?

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i would be leading this flop for PSB, not c-r'ing.

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Beavens-

What is your plan if he raises your flop bet?

Morrek · #8 12-23-2005, 03:57 PM

I'd pot flop and then go from there, preferebly not put much more money in the pot without improving.

beavens · #9 12-23-2005, 03:57 PM

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didnt feel like raising the flop to see if they flopped the flush?

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No, I would prefer to boat up and take it from there. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] So you would c/r in this spot? How much would you make it to go?

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i would be leading this flop for PSB, not c-r'ing.

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Beavens-

What is your plan if he raises your flop bet?

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depends on the raise.. part of me would want to lay it down because he has the flush, part of me would want to push because he's more than likely just drawing to the flush.

i think it'd be a push or fold situation, calling doesnt seem like an option.

optimisticaly i would quad up on the turn.

#10 12-23-2005, 03:59 PM

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I'd pot flop and then go from there, preferebly not put much more money in the pot without improving.

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What happens if:

Villain min raises flop.

Villain makes a pot size raise.

Villain just calls.