another river bet/fold (WA/WB)

jt1 · #1 12-20-2005, 11:19 AM

Both players are unknown

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.66 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.66 BB

gonzopro · #2 12-20-2005, 11:26 AM

looks good to me

#3 12-20-2005, 11:31 AM

I think against an unknown this play is not so great. Would he bet the turn again with things that don't beat you? The flop is pretty drawless.

He has raised a pfr 3-bettrr on this slightly scary flop he also called 2 cold. I think he has a Q here a lot of the time.

The pot is big, so how likely are players at 3/6 going to bluff /raise the flop with an over, air, a weaker PP?

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hemstock · #4 12-20-2005, 11:31 AM

I don't like it. What is he folding here? A five, a queen, an ace? Nothing. I would actually 3 bet the flop and fold to a cap or a turn raise. Guy called 2 cold preflop, he saw you 3betting and he doesnt care. Give him some credit.

Guruman · #5 12-20-2005, 11:32 AM

hmmm. what hand range calls two cold, then calls two more cold, then raises that flop?

superpassivity followed up by aggression.

It doesnt look like that's a freecard play. My money's on him either being a fish with a piece of the board, or a WPT wannabe with QQ-AA.

When that turn bet comes, what are we beating here?

#6 12-20-2005, 11:44 AM

I'd guess that he's got AQ, A5, or a very passive QQ here. If he had a blank queen, wouldn't hero's river bet when the ace hit be scary and he would just flat call? Maybe I'm thinking too deeply into it.

With this in mind, definite river fold. I'm not even sure I would be betting once the ace hit, you're behind nearly everything now.

MrWookie47 · #7 12-20-2005, 11:46 AM

Agreed. I might just c/f that river.

jba · #8 12-20-2005, 11:50 AM

just check/fold the river. if he's got 99/TT just let him have this one, way too many hands have you smoked.

#9 12-20-2005, 12:04 PM

I like the river, I don't like flop or turn. I think 3-bet flop or bet turn and fold to a raise. River is good because you may scare an A? Pot is probably too big.

I don't think I would have called down after his turn bet. I think he may have checked through the turn often enough to call the flop just on a steal?

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gehrig · #10 12-20-2005, 01:04 PM

well played