Stats post...

[krishanleong]

Wow, I haven't been gone long and already a ton of stats posts. I just wanted to give you a little heads up about playing shorthand and stats.

First off if you are playing shorthand, be ready for extreme variance. Nowhere else has a 3 BB/100 winner lost 600 BBs. Nowhere else have we seen an 800 BB downswing. Nowhere else can you find a winning player breaking even for 100K hands.

Extreme variance.

So you are losing over some hands and you are really worried you aren't a winner. Here is the thing. You just can't tell. You can't tell now after 5,10,25K hands. You won't ever be able to tell what your BB / 100 is.

Thanksfully that doesn't really matter. All that matters is that you play the best poker you can and always strive to improve. That's it. Stats posts can help you get better if you have obvious leaks. (Not defending properly, folding river bets to much, too passive or too agresive postflop) But just because you aren't winning isn't a good reason to post stats. You can learn all you really need to know about stats from reading other peoples stat threads.

I'm going to leave you with a snapshot of some of my play at 10/20 as well as a graph. This isn't even as bad as it can get but hopefully it will help some of you understand the kind of variance in shorthand poker. Good luck at the tables.

Krishan

[POKhER]

Holy cow.

Can you post your details(post flop stuff i.e. raising etc).

Cheers mate,
POKhER.

[krishanleong]

[imported_leader]

That's creepy because the only thing that makes it look like you're running bad is your win rate. Variance is sick. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[kapw7]

Your WSD/$WSD values don't look bad, so I guess you have been making a few very expensive second hands (?)

[RandBriscoe]

The real question is: Why is have you folded AA twice pf? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Anyway, I love posts like this. I've played 23k hands of breakeven poker... Appreciate the perspective...

Are you always playing with 5-6 opponents? Otherwise I feel you are a little tight. :/

[jba]

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Your WSD/$WSD values don't look bad, so I guess you have been making a few very expensive second hands (?)

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that and maybe his opponents never are

[scotty34]

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The real question is: Why is have you folded AA twice pf? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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In case you are actually curious, it was folded to him in the BB.

[POKhER]

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Are you always playing with 5-6 opponents? Otherwise I feel you are a little tight. :/

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LOL, im 21VPIP - Im a rock eh [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]