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Old 12-10-2005, 09:05 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Villian is LAggy

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

What do you think? Thanks,

Krishan
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Villian is LAggy

i think fold preflop.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:09 PM
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i think fold preflop.

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He's too laggy. Something like 45/27.

KRishan
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Villian is LAggy

PF is a spot I'm not too sure about. I 3-bet 55 without a thought but against a serious lag with 44-22 perhaps it's better to just call PF and checkraise favorable flops? Don't know, something I've just started thinking about more.

Postflop I think you must suck it up and bet turn. Call down if raised. I believe he will call a flop like this with close to 100% of his hand range and checking turn misses too much value from all the worse hands/draws/nothings that will either call or raise your bet. Your check is a transparent "get to showdown" move even to many lags so it's pretty questionable whether he takes the bait.

Like the river bet once you get there.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:18 PM
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nothing like inducing a bluff turn raise! I bet that shizzle.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:19 PM
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you should really say something like "villain is something like 45/27" [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

laggy could mean a lot of things
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:21 PM
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PF is a spot I'm not too sure about. I 3-bet 55 without a thought but against a serious lag with 44-22 perhaps it's better to just call PF and checkraise favorable flops? Don't know, something I've just started thinking about more.

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Calling here is suicide. Get it heads up or don't play it at all.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:23 PM
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PF is a spot I'm not too sure about. I 3-bet 55 without a thought but against a serious lag with 44-22 perhaps it's better to just call PF and checkraise favorable flops? Don't know, something I've just started thinking about more.

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Calling here is suicide. Get it heads up or don't play it at all.

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It's not that absurd. Perhaps you haven't thought about it enough?

Krishan
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:26 PM
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I assume you were calling down if he bet the turn and river? I think this is fine, although I don't think I personally pull the trigger and 3-bet preflop. I probably call or fold.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:16 AM
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hi krishan. i hate the preflop 3bet. doesnt matter if hes laggy... he has overcards, is in position and hes going to make a fortune off you. hell probably be chasing his overcards correctly, raising his draws and will correctly fold when he doesnt have odds to chase. youll be paying him off after you go bet/bet/bet or bet/bet/checkcall. HUGE reverse implied odds imo.
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