200/400 bellagio AQo

[DpR]

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I can't say I know the dynamics of 200/400, but what are the odds that a hand you beat will bet into you again on the turn? My guess is that they're fairly low, in which case a flop raise is better since there are lots of worse hands that'll call down.

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So if you have AJ clubs here in the BB, you would not play it exactly the same as the BB did here ? Then with that same AJ wouldn't you lead the turn?

Maybe youre right. Maybe I am putting too much stock into the preflop/flop action instead of BK's read on his opponent. I understand BK's read preflop and why he 4 bet it. The typical player would never pause with TT's or above or AK. But when this guy bets the flop after BK 4 bets it, I am ready to abandon this read and go into defense mode. Maybe I am giving up on this read too early in the hand, but the last thing I want to do is stubbornly stick to a read and lose more money becuz of it. I am not saying calling down here is the right strategy, just saying thats what I would do and why.

[Paluka]

I don't think the various lines you could take on this hand make a real big difference. I would not want to raise the turn though, because that would be the worst place to get 3 bet.

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jon bender I think is his real name

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THIS GUY!?!



Fold, cause when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

















btw, Schneids and BK have never seen the breakfast club and i would have totally stayed out of this thread except they didn't know who i was talking about when I IMed them, and that pissed me off enough to post random stupid crap in this otherwise possibly good thread, but I guess since they're both mods they can delete this and ban me anways.

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"Claire. Claire! That's a fat girl's name!"

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jon bender I think is his real name

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THIS GUY!?!



Fold, cause when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

















btw, Schneids and BK have never seen the breakfast club and i would have totally stayed out of this thread except they didn't know who i was talking about when I IMed them, and that pissed me off enough to post random stupid crap in this otherwise possibly good thread, but I guess since they're both mods they can delete this and ban me anways.

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"Claire. Claire! That's a fat girl's name!"

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"This is what you get at my house when you spill paint in the garage."

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jon bender I think is his real name

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THIS GUY!?!



Fold, cause when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

















btw, Schneids and BK have never seen the breakfast club and i would have totally stayed out of this thread except they didn't know who i was talking about when I IMed them, and that pissed me off enough to post random stupid crap in this otherwise possibly good thread, but I guess since they're both mods they can delete this and ban me anways.

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"Claire. Claire! That's a fat girl's name!"

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"This is what you get at my house when you spill paint in the garage."

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"Well, some I consider my girlfrieds... and some...I just consider..."

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jon bender I think is his real name

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THIS GUY!?!



Fold, cause when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

















btw, Schneids and BK have never seen the breakfast club and i would have totally stayed out of this thread except they didn't know who i was talking about when I IMed them, and that pissed me off enough to post random stupid crap in this otherwise possibly good thread, but I guess since they're both mods they can delete this and ban me anways.

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"Claire. Claire! That's a fat girl's name!"

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"This is what you get at my house when you spill paint in the garage."

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"Well, some I consider my girlfrieds... and some...I just consider..."

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"You know what I got for Christmas this year? It was a banner [censored]' year at the old Bender family! I got a carton of cigarettes. The old man grabbed me and said "Hey! Smoke up Johnny! Okay, so go home'n cry to your daddy, don't cry here, okay?"

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jon bender I think is his real name

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THIS GUY!?!



Fold, cause when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

















btw, Schneids and BK have never seen the breakfast club and i would have totally stayed out of this thread except they didn't know who i was talking about when I IMed them, and that pissed me off enough to post random stupid crap in this otherwise possibly good thread, but I guess since they're both mods they can delete this and ban me anways.

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"Claire. Claire! That's a fat girl's name!"

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"This is what you get at my house when you spill paint in the garage."

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"Well, some I consider my girlfrieds... and some...I just consider..."

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"You know what I got for Christmas this year? It was a banner [censored]' year at the old Bender family! I got a carton of cigarettes. The old man grabbed me and said "Hey! Smoke up Johnny! Okay, so go home'n cry to your daddy, don't cry here, okay?"

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"The door's way too heavy, sir."

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jon bender I think is his real name

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THIS GUY!?!



Fold, cause when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

















btw, Schneids and BK have never seen the breakfast club and i would have totally stayed out of this thread except they didn't know who i was talking about when I IMed them, and that pissed me off enough to post random stupid crap in this otherwise possibly good thread, but I guess since they're both mods they can delete this and ban me anways.

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"Claire. Claire! That's a fat girl's name!"

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"This is what you get at my house when you spill paint in the garage."

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"Well, some I consider my girlfrieds... and some...I just consider..."

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"You know what I got for Christmas this year? It was a banner [censored]' year at the old Bender family! I got a carton of cigarettes. The old man grabbed me and said "Hey! Smoke up Johnny! Okay, so go home'n cry to your daddy, don't cry here, okay?"

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"The door's way too heavy, sir."

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Oops sorry guys, I thought this was OOT for a second. Carry on. Raise the turn beacuse mikel said to.

[NLSoldier]

ok thats more than enough.