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10-24-2005, 08:37 AM
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Big blind defense results for some specific hands
I have always defined my BB defense criteria for offsuit hands as "any two offsuit T or higher" or "any two offsuit 9 or higher", etc.
After looking at my PT results I have then periodically loosened my criteria in search of the frontier of hands which are a toss up EV wise between calling and folding. For the last 50K hands or so I have been using "any two offsuit 8 or higher". I realize that the sample size is extraordinarily small, but if any of you could provide your results for any offsuit hands that contain at least one non-broadway card I would very much appreciate it. Filter PokerTracker for "big blind", "put money in", "no raise". Here are mine for 5/10 (6-max): Also please include the game you were playing: A9 = -88 dollars on 112 times A8 = -80 dollars on 74 times A7 = -119 dollars on 25 times A6 = -32 dollars on 21 times A5 = -34 dollars on 16 times A4 = -67 dollars on 25 times A3 = -60 dollars on 22 times A2 = -181 dollars on 19 times K9 = -566 dollars on 102 times K8 = -337 dollars on 63 times K7 = -24 dollars on 24 times Q9 = -520 dollars on 137 times Q8 = -337 dollars on 58 times Q7 = -7 dollars on 11 times J9 = -1118 dollars on 223 times J8 = -233 dollars on 59 times J7 = +15 dollars on 20 times T9 = -167 dollars on 182 times T8 = -299 dollars on 111 times T7 = -35 dollars on 35 times 98 = -616 dollars on 105 times 97 = +114 dollars on 27 times 87 = -249 dollars on 63 times 76 = -296 dollars on 31 times 65 = -116 dollars on 29 times 54 = -170 dollars on 13 times Thanks, Cartman 
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#2
10-24-2005, 10:31 PM
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Re: Big blind defense results for some specific hands
hey cartman-
for what it is worth here are my numbers for 59k hands. i play 3/6 (6max) and usually only defend with offsuits higher than 9. A9o +84 26times 0.54 bb/hand A8o +61 8times 1.28 bb/hand K9o -62 43times -0.24 bb/hand Q9o -243 38times -1.07 bb/hand J9o -177 37times -0.80 bb/hand T9o -9 48times -0.03 bb/hand 98o -7 9times -0.12 bb/hand 87o +47 4times 1.94 bb/hand
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#3
10-25-2005, 04:40 AM
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Re: Big blind defense results for some specific hands
Hey cartman,
As you know here are my stats for 5-10 6 max. A9 = +3 dollars - 12 times A8 = +61 DOLLARS - 9 A7 = -152 DOLLARS - 14 A6 = +95 DOLLARS - 14 A5 = -50.5 DOLLARS- 15 A4 = +8.33 DOLLARS- 20 A3 = +23 DOLLARS- 7 A2 = +181 DOLLARS- 9 K9 = -10.32 DOLLARS- 63 K8 = +222.8 DOLLARS- 41 K7 = +247 DOLLARS- 20 Q9 = -50 DOLLARS- 50 Q8 = -272.5 DOLLARS- 39 Q7 = -117 DOLLARS- 12 J9 = +166 DOLLARS- 56 J8 = -112 DOLLARS -35 J7 = -324 DOLLARS -26 T9 = -233 DOLLARS -58 T8 = -341 DOLLARS -57 T7 = -172 DOLLARS -24 98 = +34 DOLLARS -67 97 = +29 DOLLARS -28 87 = -211.75 DOLLARS- 36 76 = +270 DOLLARS -21 65 = -99 DOLLARS -16 54 = -62.5 DOLLARS -11
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#4
10-25-2005, 05:43 AM
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Re: Big blind defense results for some specific hands
Why have you put the information in $'s and not bb/hand, which would tell you alot more and allow comparision of results.
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#7
10-25-2005, 07:07 AM
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Re: Big blind defense results for some specific hands
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Why have you put the information in $'s and not bb/hand, which would tell you alot more and allow comparision of results. [/ QUOTE ] You are right that the conversion to BB/hand has to be made for proper comparison. The reason that I had them in this form is so that I could quickly find the result for groupings such as "offsuit Aces below A9 for instance". I would just add up the dollar totals and divide by the times. I appreciate the data in any form though. Cartman
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#8
10-25-2005, 07:12 AM
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Re: Big blind defense results for some specific hands
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These numbers suggest you are losing much less by defending with these hands, then you would lose if you just fold correct? [/ QUOTE ] Correct. Folding would yield a result of -$5 per hand at 5/10 for example. So almost all of these categories have done better than that. The ridiculously small sample size clearly makes it impossible to tell the true worth of say Q9. But in my opinion looking at "families" of hands in context with one another can offer some insight. Cartman
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