Question regarding my opponent and pot odds

sexdrugsmoney · #1 10-04-2005, 10:07 PM

I know I played the following hand correct, but my opponent plays 3 tables of 2/4 Stud and I was shocked when the showdown came, as I thought he was making a mistake to play that hand against me.

Did he have the pot odds?

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7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls

4th Street - (5.38 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds

5th Street - (4.19 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (6.19 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

River - (8.19 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___raises
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls

Total pot: (12.19 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $46.75 | Rake: $2

Seat 4: [ 9s 7s Qs 6d Ts 3h Js ] [ a flush, queen high -- Qs,Js,Ts,9s,7s ]

Hero: [ Kh 4h Kc 6h Ac 9d 4c ] [ two pairs, kings and fours -- Ac,Kh,Kc,4h,4c ]

BeerMoney · #2 10-04-2005, 10:13 PM

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Did he have the pot odds?

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Yes.

sexdrugsmoney · #3 10-04-2005, 10:14 PM

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Did he have the pot odds?

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Yes.

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For those who aren't convinced 2+2=4, can you tell me why?

beta1607 · #4 10-04-2005, 10:17 PM

what would you do different if you were him?
3rd is standard
4th is ok
5-7 are standard.

sexdrugsmoney · #5 10-04-2005, 10:23 PM

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what would you do different if you were him?
3rd is standard
4th is ok
5-7 are standard.

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I just want to know about the math.

BeerMoney · #6 10-04-2005, 10:24 PM

He has a live 3 flush, it is standard to call another bet closing the action on fourth in a multiway raised pot on third.

SM&Z say you should see 5th about 60% of the time with a 3 flush that doesn't catch another of its suit.

sexdrugsmoney · #7 10-04-2005, 10:28 PM

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He has a live 3 flush, it is standard to call another bet closing the action on fourth in a multiway raised pot on third.

SM&Z say you should see 5th about 60% of the time with a 3 flush that doesn't catch another of its suit.

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Many Thanks Beer.

BeerMoney · #8 10-04-2005, 10:38 PM

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I just want to know about the math.

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Maybe that's something you can work on by yourself.. You're British right, you guys are supposed to be smart..

sexdrugsmoney · #9 10-04-2005, 10:39 PM

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I just want to know about the math.

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Maybe that's something you can work on by yourself.. You're British right, you guys are supposed to be smart..

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Not British, not smart.

Andy B · #10 10-04-2005, 10:48 PM

It's as much as 60% of the time, which is a different statement. Here circumstances are less-than-ideal, because there aren't many people in and the pot is relatively small. Still, his call on fourth closes the action, and spades are pretty live. I've certainly made worse calls. Once he picks up the big draw on fifth, he ain't goin' anywhere, nor should he.