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Old 10-03-2005, 08:06 AM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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should have folded turn..
for some reason I thought he made a move...
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: how awful?

OK... I'd fold unless you two have a history.
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: how awful?

I don't think it's awful. He could be bluffing his missed draw. If he is a thinking player he could see a board here that obviously has not helped a player who raised UTG and curled up vs. the checkraise.

What about raising the turn for a free showdown?
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:48 AM
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I agree with you although the main str8 draw got there on the river. Btw wouldn't a good flush draw check-raise the turn instead?
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:57 AM
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why do you think that is better than calling down? because I can make him fold something that beats me? that would work... obviously folding a 3-bet or a river donk
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:03 AM
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I agree with you although the main str8 draw got there on the river. Btw wouldn't a good flush draw check-raise the turn instead?

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I don't think so.. I wouldn't
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:06 AM
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Yeah the turn 3-bet helps sniff out a bluffer and let's you see a showdown for free. Basically you are getting more value for your BB than if you spent it calling the river. More information, etc...
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:08 AM
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I agree with you although the main str8 draw got there on the river. Btw wouldn't a good flush draw check-raise the turn instead?

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I don't think I would worry about the straight draw in this hand...unless he is a total mouthbreather, he isn't calling the UTG raise pf from the sb with 87...
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Old 10-03-2005, 10:53 AM
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I don't think I would worry about the straight draw in this hand...unless he is a total mouthbreather, he isn't calling the UTG raise pf from the sb with 87...

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my standard opponents would do that. if sooted, for sure.
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Old 10-03-2005, 03:29 PM
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I don't think I would worry about the straight draw in this hand...unless he is a total mouthbreather, he isn't calling the UTG raise pf from the sb with 87...

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my standard opponents would do that. if sooted, for sure.

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